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    Phoronix: Valve's Alien Swarm Game For Linux?

    While the best cards have not yet been dealt, for those hoping to see Valve's "Alien Swarm" game supported on Linux upon the Steam / Source Engine Linux release, you may be in luck. Windowing code within the Alien Swarm SDK is signalling that there may be support for this game coming to Linux...

    http://www.phoronix.com/vr.php?view=ODkyOA

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    no
    I think AppFramework it's only a tools because its in "src/public/appframework/AppFramework.h"

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    • #3
      Michael Larabel, stop playing with my heart. Seriously, it hurts.

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      • #4
        Originally posted by mum1989 View Post
        no
        I think AppFramework it's only a tools because its in "src/public/appframework/AppFramework.h"
        No, what you are referencing is a _Java_ Swing project... Totally unrelated.
        Michael Larabel
        http://www.michaellarabel.com/

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        • #5
          there are only vague hints pointing towards steam/source for Linux more than half a year now?

          Steam for Linux is either dead now and what we are seeing are pieces of it's body or it will eventually make it out and Steam/Source/Valve will be antiquated or bankrupt - such is life for the Linux Gamer :-(.

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          • #6
            Again? -.-

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            • #7
              Steam/Source/Valve will be antiquated or bankrupt
              Yea, that's not going to happen anytime soon.

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              • #8
                Really, could someone from Phoronix give a statement why are you so sure that Steam is indeed coming to Linux? Cause you are like the only one in the whole internet that claims it with 100% certainty. Do you know something secret that the rest of the world is not aware of?

                Because those 'proofs' of you showing some linux ifdefs here and there (in Mac client f.e.) are not proving anything. It just meant that someone was playing with it. It might have been just some single developer that got too much of his free time.

                Making such statements all the time without ANY sort of proof is really bad journalism.

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                • #9
                  Please stop taking small pieces of code from random places and claiming an imminent port just because the word linux is there, It could be some framework/library that might work on linux that steam is using.
                  Only mention steam again if you have words from developers, or something filtered, but stop messing with the code.

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by Havner View Post
                    Really, could someone from Phoronix give a statement why are you so sure that Steam is indeed coming to Linux? Cause you are like the only one in the whole internet that claims it with 100% certainty. Do you know something secret that the rest of the world is not aware of?

                    Because those 'proofs' of you showing some linux ifdefs here and there (in Mac client f.e.) are not proving anything. It just meant that someone was playing with it. It might have been just some single developer that got too much of his free time.

                    Making such statements all the time without ANY sort of proof is really bad journalism.
                    You do make a point good sir. Although you may have forgotten that steam already HAS come to Linux. Just not released to the public. I think it would be safe to assume companies would not waste money on developing a product they don't plan on selling. In the mean time, the question isn't so much "if" as it is "when". In the unfortunate event that it is "not" then we can start to explore "why".

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                    • #11
                      Porting games to different platforms takes time and money. It's very possible internally at Valve there are a few interested in a long term vision of seeing the engine, games, and Steam itself run on Linux. But all this takes time and money. However even if they want it to happen it doesn't mean it can happen over night. Often when porting to other platforms you make tiny progress here and there by replacing one bit of windows code with another bit of cross platform code. Or one windows library here with another cross platform library (i.e. webkit). Eventually the light at the end of the tunnel gets brighter and you realize it's actually going to be possible. Who knows where Valve is in that tunnel. My guess is that with the Mac port done it must be technically within grasp and largely coming down to marketing and financial decision planning for if and when it makes sense to release.

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by BlueKoala View Post
                        Although you may have forgotten that steam already HAS come to Linux. Just not released to the public. I think it would be safe to assume companies would not waste money on developing a product they don't plan on selling.
                        Wrong. Look at the UT3 story that was lately confirmed just here on Phoronix that UT3 will not be coming to Linux. Even if they made working Linux client it doesn't mean they will release and maintain it. Just like I said. Someone (even it mean whole Valve) might have been playing with it.

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by damipereira View Post
                          Please stop taking small pieces of code from random places and claiming an imminent port just because the word linux is there, It could be some framework/library that might work on linux that steam is using.
                          Only mention steam again if you have words from developers, or something filtered, but stop messing with the code.
                          UT3 taught me to not rely on what devs say, but rather to make my own assumptions.

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                          • #14
                            Oh no, not another article about steam on linux....
                            I'd honestly be surprised if the folks at Valve weren't tinkering with getting things to run under linux, but that's all it has the appearance of at this stage. Tinkering, testing, just to see if it can be made to work.
                            Let's also remember where Alien Swarm came from: a UT2004 mod, and back then playable under Linux (or so I hear - never tried it myself).
                            Between this, the UT3 debacle, and Wayland (nothing anyone can say means it _will_ overtake X or gain traction - all we can say is "it's possible, maybe in a couple of years or more"), it does make site less interesting.

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by Havner View Post
                              Wrong. Look at the UT3 story that was lately confirmed just here on Phoronix that UT3 will not be coming to Linux. Even if they made working Linux client it doesn't mean they will release and maintain it. Just like I said. Someone (even it mean whole Valve) might have been playing with it.
                              I disagree.
                              UT3 was fully intended to be released on Linux.
                              Companies do not intentionally sink resources into something that will never see the light of day, unless strictly for research purposes.
                              Apparently something went wrong with UT3 and we can only speculate what could have gone wrong.
                              The fact that linux references have been found on a recent steam game that was developed by Valve themselves is proof that they intend the game to be released on linux. Whether only internally or publicly is not what I'm debating. I'm just saying that coders usually have a QA process and I'm sure that this wouldn't have passed through if they did not intend the game to be released on linux. With all that being said, it only makes logical sense that this will be released to the public eventually. I'm also certain that if valve had no intentions of releasing a linux client, they would have officially stated it by now. Instead we just see more hints of it coming to linux. I think it's very safe to ask oneself "when" the client will finally come.

                              I think it may be as early as January 2011. I'm willing to bet 50$ US dollars with you Havner that by September 2011, there will be a Linux steam client out for public use.

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