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    Phoronix: A Gaming Mouse Vendor That Has Linux Drivers

    While Razer and Logitech manufacturer some terrific mice for computer gamers along with other gaming peripherals, they unfortunately do not provide any official Linux support. There have been community projects like Lomoco for supporting Logitech's extra mouse features under Linux and RazerTool for supporting some Razer mice, but without any full-featured support from the vendor. The smaller gaming peripheral vendors like Mionix are also no better at providing Linux support, but there is now at least one new vendor supporting such efforts...

    http://www.phoronix.com/vr.php?view=ODY1Mw

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    I would love to know more about these products. I wish they were available somewhere in North America. I have a Saitek Cyborg keyboard with custom-programmable keys that I can't make any use of under Linux, and a Razer Mamba which looks really sweet but is limited to basic functionality (and doesn't have a 4-way scroll wheel). I'd trade both of them immediately for some Roccat versions if I could.

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    • #3
      I see they named their product Kone and Kova... Are they from the KDE team?

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      • #4
        @phoronix

        You say the dumbest shit sometimes.
        Have you actually used their hardware?
        If not what do you base your claims about their hardware quality on?
        Reading your article the only thing you appear to base it on is the fact you have never heard of them before.

        Your starting to sound more and more like some kind of cheep tabloid. LEAP FIRST GET FACTS LATER!

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        • #5
          @insanemal, nothing new then?

          Pity I didn't know about the Roccat Kone two weeks ago when I had to replace my Razer Diamondback.
          On the upside, I purchased a Razer Lachesis. The DPI buttons, and profile changing buttons work under Linux. Configuration however, is performed under Windows.
          This is certainly a step up from fixed resolution on the (early) Diamondback and the appeal of the advertised "on the fly" feature.

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          • #6
            Yay, Roccat is Finnish and better yet provides drivers for its penguin customers. Awesome. *Puts a Roccat mouse on his TODO-list*

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            • #7
              wtf? on their website only windows is mentioned...nothing about linux or a penguin... *confused*

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              • #8
                Originally posted by insanemal View Post
                @phoronix

                You say the dumbest shit sometimes.
                Have you actually used their hardware?
                If not what do you base your claims about their hardware quality on?
                Reading your article the only thing you appear to base it on is the fact you have never heard of them before.

                Your starting to sound more and more like some kind of cheep tabloid. LEAP FIRST GET FACTS LATER!
                Sadly it seems he's right, the quality is poor:
                http://www.prisjakt.nu/produkt.php?o=489819

                Seems like the mouse keeps double-klicking on single-klick and when the mouse is laying still on a flat surface the mouse pointer on the screen jumps around on the screen like it's crazy.

                Still it's nice to see more hardware vendors taking Linux seriously!

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                • #9
                  Yeah here in Germany Roccat is actually a quite well known name. At least I've heard about it several times, and I'm not very much into gaming-peripherals so I guess that's saying something.

                  Oh, and I agree that Michaels remarks on Roccats quality are pretty inappropriate, considering he's obviously never held one in his hands. I for one have only heard good things about them.
                  And as a long time Razer-user I've to say their build-quality is mediocre at best. I've got a Razer Krait, admittedly not their high-end product, but still quite an expensive mouse considering it has basically zero features (which is exactly what I wanted, a simple no-bullshit mouse with a good sensor).
                  After only two years of medium use the mouse-buttons became imprecise (often it would interpret a single-click for a double-click) and the rubbery coating started going off. I fixed the mouse-buttons by soldering in new triggers from a cheap old PS/2 mouse I still had lying around in to it, and these felt much better than the Razer's original ones ever did, which makes me suspect that Razer uses quite cheap parts in their products. Also the optical sensor of the mouse is not what I hoped for. Sometimes the mouse-cursor even starts moving when the mouse is sitting on my desk and not moving at all!
                  A friend of mine who also owns a Razer Krait has made exactly the same experiences, so I'm not the only one who's got problems with Razers products.

                  The Roccat Pyra or the Kova seem like decent replacements for my Krait, I think I'm going to get one of those soon.

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by FunkyRider View Post
                    I see they named their product Kone and Kova... Are they from the KDE team?
                    I was just looking at the naming scheme and could not find a pattern besides Kova, from Kovalainen and Kone from Haikkonen maybe?

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by FunkyRider View Post
                      I see they named their product Kone and Kova... Are they from the KDE team?
                      Doesn't seem so
                      Direct translations from Finnish:
                      Kone = Machine
                      Kova = Tough

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                      • #12
                        What a cooincidence. I was just at a major PC parts retailer here in Japan (A chain called Dospara), and took a good long look at the Roccat Kave 5.1 headset. I'm not familiar with gaming headsets at all, but to be honest I thought the quality was at as good if not better than the Logitech and Steelseries stuff they had on display. The Kave headset felt like quality. Not a hint of cheapness about it. I can't comment on the mice though, since I didn't look at those.

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by Zhick View Post
                          Oh, and I agree that Michaels remarks on Roccats quality are pretty inappropriate, considering he's obviously never held one in his hands. I for one have only heard good things about them.
                          It does seem awfully premature without any hands-on experience with their products.

                          Originally posted by Zhick View Post
                          And as a long time Razer-user I've to say their build-quality is mediocre at best. ... A friend of mine who also owns a Razer Krait has made exactly the same experiences, so I'm not the only one who's got problems with Razers products.
                          My Razer Mamba (top-end Razer product) died within less than a year of light, non-gaming use. The laser just up and died. It had been acting erratically for a few weeks. Luckily I was able to get a warranty replacement, but their warranty department was backlogged for weeks due to too many claims. Also, the battery barely lasts longer than 2 days, even with the latest firmware (which, as a Linux user, is a NIGHTMARE to update). Considering the price I paid for it, I was surprised at the lack of quality. Even a dirt cheap bargain-basement Logitech is more reliable. Pretending that Razer products are the cream of the crop in terms of quality is a little na´ve.

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by Gymmarn View Post
                            Sadly it seems he's right, the quality is poor:
                            http://www.prisjakt.nu/produkt.php?o=489819

                            Seems like the mouse keeps double-klicking on single-klick and when the mouse is laying still on a flat surface the mouse pointer on the screen jumps around on the screen like it's crazy.

                            Still it's nice to see more hardware vendors taking Linux seriously!
                            4 Reviews?
                            Your seriously attempting to backup his rubbish statements on 4 reviews. One of which is a 7 out of 10.

                            I frequently see reviews of the RAZOR mice that say they are awesome. Yet I sold these for quite some time, and 50% of them came back with button issues in short periods of time. (I'm talking weeks). ESP that bloody HABU. That or issues with the really stiff cables suffering from cracks in the wires.

                            I'm more inclined to believe Zhick who apparently is a native in a country that stocks these mice.

                            MOREOVER I'm not suggesting that they should be praised on all accounts for simply having Linux compatible drivers. Which are apparently not made by the company but by 'some guy' from the community. Which in it self should be some kind of indication of quality. Generally people can't be arsed writing drivers for things that don't work or are crap . What I AM saying is, if he doesn't have concrete evidence he should try simply not saying anything. AND CALM DOWN MAN, SERIOUSLY. One tiny regression in a random daily build or RC and your like "END OF LINUX PERFORMANCE FOR THE REST OF TIME"

                            Lay off the coffee, and leave over-sensational reporting to <insert media outlet in your country here>

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by meklu View Post
                              Yay, Roccat is Finnish and better yet provides drivers for its penguin customers. Awesome. *Puts a Roccat mouse on his TODO-list*
                              Whoops, it wasn't Finnish after all. My mistake. The products have Finnish names though.

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