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    Phoronix: Valve's Linux Play May Lead More Games To Follow Suit

    Brought up in the Phoronix Forums yesterday by a reader was a reference to Ryan Gordon's resume that he was contracted to port Red Orchestra: Ostfront 41-45 to Linux. This led a Phoronix reader to email Ryan "Icculus" Gordon and now we managed to get our hands on Ryan's e-mail response...

    http://www.phoronix.com/vr.php?view=ODI4NA

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    there isn't one outside of those poking around the Steam binaries on the Phoronix forums, so we haven't even started looking at a Linux client.
    so now please phoronix check your sources before you speak !!!!

    No steam client on GNu/linux

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    • #3
      Killing floor = great game

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        Yes exactly what sources do you have that confirms that Valve actually is going to release Steam for Linux. It seems to me more probable to me that your "source" the telegraph since not mentioning their source got the release announcement from you and you in turn made more news from their assumption that you had anything official.

        Yes it is obvious that the binaries are there, but that does not change the politics of a business.

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        • #5
          Great news

          Some background: RO was originally a UT2k4 mod that had a Linux port. When Tripwire won a "Make Something Unreal" contest they got the rights to the UT engine for free (I believe they had the choice of UT 2.5 or UT 3 at the time.) They decided to go with Steam as the content delivery method and I believe for networking/friends/etc. Shortly after this, on the forums there was a thread about the prospect of them continuing with a Linux port. IIRC the developers said if there was a native Linux Steam client it would be possible for them to continue supporting Linux. I think they also had a screenshot of the new version running on Linux in house (which couldn't do networking because it relied on Steam.)

          That was a few years ago. I haven't really followed them recently because of the lack of Linux support, nor did I buy RO:O41-45 (I don't remember how it was abbreviated to be honest.) Basically I'm not too surprised they're going back to cross platform development now that Steam is cross platform (at least two official platforms.)

          Hopefully if/when the Linux Steam client is released I'll finally be able to buy this RO game because I really enjoyed the original mod.

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          • #6
            Originally posted by mum1989 View Post
            so now please phoronix check your sources before you speak !!!!

            No steam client on GNu/linux
            I can't really say this for sure, but I'd guess Ryan was meaning there's no official Steam client for Linux. The full quote seems to imply that at least...
            Originally posted by Ryan Gordon
            If there were a port of Steam for Linux, we'd almost certainly do a Linux client, too, but at the moment there isn't one outside of those poking around the Steam binaries on the Phoronix forums, so we haven't even started looking at a Linux client.

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            • #7
              It seems to me more probable to me that your "source" the telegraph since not mentioning their source got the release announcement from you and you in turn made more news from their assumption that you had anything official.
              The technical term for this is "circle jerking."

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              • #8
                Originally posted by losinggeneration View Post
                I can't really say this for sure, but I'd guess Ryan was meaning there's no official Steam client for Linux. The full quote seems to imply that at least...
                The implication would be that. I know Elecorn's not been appraised of anything on that score (Mike Smith would have told me so we could be packaging up for it as well..). That doesn't mean Michael doesn't have an inside source on the subject (no pun intended...)- but in the same vein, like I've said before...there's only so far you can carry things on this subject without an official statement from Valve.

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by mum1989 View Post
                  so now please phoronix check your sources before you speak !!!!

                  No steam client on GNu/linux
                  Phoronix did not mentioned a completed linux client, but was talking about a linux client in development that wil be delivered soon. Nothing in the article excudes this statement. Although Ryan chose his words with care and consideration for nuances.

                  In my experience phoronix is better informed than some of the impatient visitors here. Who make unsubstantiated statements 'without' reconizing any nuances or having considerations for the fact that phoronix has proven to be rather well informed.

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by elanthis View Post
                    The technical term for this is "circle jerking."
                    I'm afraid you're refering to something else

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by Svartalf View Post
                      like I've said before...there's only so far you can carry things on this subject without an official statement from Valve.
                      Pretty much. Developers of Steam games won't even bother to look into a Linux port until there is an official statement. It'd actually be foolish to start down that path in case Valve has a change of heart or for some other reason end up not releasing a Linux client of Steam.

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                      • #12
                        AHHH!! Why can't games get ported to GNU/Linux that don't use Product Activation or DRM?

                        Red Orchestra was a great mod for Unreal 2004 -- I was quite pleased, even if it was a Windows only version (figured I'd use Wine). But then I discovered that it used Product Activation, and my hopes for greatness were dashed...

                        As much as I really want to see decent games ported to GNU/Linux, I DON'T want the platform to be another showcase for worthless products you can't use without first asking permission.

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by tmpdir View Post
                          Phoronix did not mentioned a completed linux client, but was talking about a linux client in development that wil be delivered soon. Nothing in the article excudes this statement. Although Ryan chose his words with care and consideration for nuances.
                          Indeed. I read that there MIGHT be something forthcoming but since it's not official yet, his clients aren't moving in that direction yet. I've not heard anything unofficial/official and one of my clients happens to be using Steam as a delivery system in addition to the regular installer method. I'm suspecting I'll get told shortly before they make an official move at Valve so I can package it up on the Linux side. That hasn't happened yet. This doesn't mean it won't- but it doesn't mean it will either. I just don't know right now what's going on over there at Valve on this subject.

                          In my experience phoronix is better informed than some of the impatient visitors here. Who make unsubstantiated statements 'without' reconizing any nuances or having considerations for the fact that phoronix has proven to be rather well informed.
                          Indeed. It's why I'm trying to get people to slow down, back up, etc. here.

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by losinggeneration View Post
                            Pretty much. Developers of Steam games won't even bother to look into a Linux port until there is an official statement. It'd actually be foolish to start down that path in case Valve has a change of heart or for some other reason end up not releasing a Linux client of Steam.
                            Heh... There IS a reason why I've not gone and asked them about the plans yet. It's clear they've not gelled them enough for their liking; I'm thinking that I'll work at finding out (not that I could tell you lot...NDA's suck... ) sometime after Chapter 2 of Caster ships and probably when Cortex Command goes into beta (hopefully soon here...fun things are afoot and Data Realms might be party to it...).

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by TwistedLincoln View Post
                              AHHH!! Why can't games get ported to GNU/Linux that don't use Product Activation or DRM?
                              Because so many of them think that it's a good thing. Even some of the Indies have it in their head to do it- most don't, thankfully.

                              As for product activation... It's not as bad as one would think; but if you'd bought the Humble Bundle you'd get games that didn't NEED either Activation or DRM checks.

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