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  • yes, reading the frozenbyte posts, this really looks promising ..

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    • http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1678990

      what do you guys think about this?

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      • In a group as small as 5 people, there is often one person whom is out of the loop already. (This is based on team experiences)

        So I don't know what is going on there...

        Me, I have not bought a valve game since I had to struggle, and bleed blood to get Half-Life 2 to work. My experience was so bad, that even though all my friends practically demand I play some of their newer games, I haven't played any Valve game since. Actually it was more a boycott of Steam, as I have never installed it on my last 2 pc's.
        But, if Steam came out for Linux... I'd consider testing the waters again.

        Plus with Valve, when releasing Steam for Mac, a lot of the Mac users already had Steam accounts. So maybe they saw less interest there than expected. (Or less revenue for the interest)
        So, Piracy would not be the issue, I think. More like they could possibly expect every user whom would install Steam for Linux already had it on their Windows systems.

        I wonder if Michael is going to enquire for us?

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        • Originally posted by snuwoods View Post
          http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1678990

          what do you guys think about this?
          Mixed bag...

          So i was speaking to a valve sales person and i asked why there is so little thought being put into the development of steam for linux based Distros, He told me this was not always the case but the thought died out as we could not see strong enough support to make it economical and the general vibe is that people who use linux based stuff will just pirate our games and hack our platform.
          I DID warn you lot that was hacking on it to leave well enough alone. Even if it does come, we DID NOT help ourselves any when we insisted on messing with stuff that wasn't announced.

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          • Originally posted by christian_frank View Post
            yes, reading the frozenbyte posts, this really looks promising ..
            I can't say that it has anything to do with this story- but it's still an interesting response... The one Hothead gave about a Linux version of Deathspank/Deathspank:TOV was equally interesting...and relevant to the discussion.

            They'd said we wouldn't get one until Steam was available on Linux, said in a manner that implied that it might be a subject of consideration.

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            • I don't know where these guys get the idea that linux users are all "pirates". Anyone care to enlighten me? Because it seems that if there is one platform with huge piracy numbers it's windows, not linux.

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              • Originally posted by devius View Post
                I don't know where these guys get the idea that linux users are all "pirates". Anyone care to enlighten me? Because it seems that if there is one platform with huge piracy numbers it's windows, not linux.
                It might have something to do with Thom Holwerda's lengthy rants in support of piracy that usually go unanswered by the rest of the "Linux" bloggers.

                When was the last time you read a pro-copyright piece on a "Linux" blog?

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                • Originally posted by devius View Post
                  I don't know where these guys get the idea that linux users are all "pirates".
                  What makes you think that? Just because some anonymous guy on the Internet claims some "valve sales person" said that to him, doesn't make it true.

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                  • Originally posted by yogi_berra View Post
                    It might have something to do with Thom Holwerda's lengthy rants in support of piracy
                    Don't mention his name &^#!... OSNews isn't a bad idea, but T.H. is a bit of an idiot and wind**s fan-boy, and certainly too clueless to be an editor there.

                    On topic... i doubt the rants of a forum editor would make much difference.

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                    • Originally posted by devius View Post
                      I don't know where these guys get the idea that linux users are all "pirates". Anyone care to enlighten me? Because it seems that if there is one platform with huge piracy numbers it's windows, not linux.
                      Little things like Loki making 50,000 copies of the Quake 3 for Linux, only selling 5,000 of them, and yet well over 50,000 Linux Quake 3 users could be found playing online after release.

                      This isn't all that out of line with Windows piracy rates, granted. Piracy is just a huge freaking problem in general.

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                      • Originally posted by elanthis View Post
                        Little things like Loki making 50,000 copies of the Quake 3 for Linux, only selling 5,000 of them, and yet well over 50,000 Linux Quake 3 users could be found playing online after release.

                        This isn't all that out of line with Windows piracy rates, granted. Piracy is just a huge freaking problem in general.
                        Heh... That's not QUITE what caused it... And it's my understanding that the numbers sold were quite a bit lower. What happened with Q3:A was that Loki got the publishing deal for the Linux version of the game and the CEO did something a bit stupid like ordering 50K units to be produced (risky... I'd have ordered 10k units, maybe 15k for that going out on a limb...) and then compounding the mistake by delaying the release of the game because he wanted the pre-order special edition tins for each and every one of those 50k units- on a game that anyone could have bought the Windows version and "patched" the install with the runtime binary sets for the Linux version.

                        In short, it wasn't piracy, but rather people buying the Windows version because they couldn't wait that caused the problems. Seriously.

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                        • Originally posted by elanthis View Post
                          Little things like Loki making 50,000 copies of the Quake 3 for Linux, only selling 5,000 of them, and yet well over 50,000 Linux Quake 3 users could be found playing online after release.

                          This isn't all that out of line with Windows piracy rates, granted. Piracy is just a huge freaking problem in general.
                          Quake 3 had a phone-home CD key check for online play, so almost all of the people playing online had a genuine license.

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                          • Originally posted by grantek View Post
                            Quake 3 had a phone-home CD key check for online play, so almost all of the people playing online had a genuine license.
                            Svartalf write it right the people use the windows version license cd key to play it on linux.

                            means windows versions not warez versions kills the linux support.

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                            • Same here, I bought the Windows-version to play on Linux, and my "linux friends" did the same back then.

                              If they could track how many players were on Linux online, isn't that the important statistic? Retail boxes with "For Linux" on them seem outdated IMO. All games should just be cross platform from start

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                              • Originally posted by numasan View Post
                                All games should just be cross platform from start
                                Yes they should. But, more likely we'll start seeing games for "PC, Mac and Linux", which is complete BS since what they mean is "Windows, Mac and Linux". Man, I hate so much the whole "PC" when they mean "Windows" shit...

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