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  • I know that I most likely only feeding the troll, but in the steam file within http://store.steampowered.com/public...213f46436c7659 there are these strings:
    linux22
    linux24
    linux26
    LINUX
    Linux
    Linux 2.2
    Linux 2.4
    Linux 2.6
    They have most likely been found before, and are probably also out of interest.

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    • Originally posted by deanjo View Post
      The numbers would have given a better feeling as to what the situation is if they had made it one-donation, one OS version.
      The only numbers from the bundles that would be meaningful for platform stats are the downloads.

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      • Originally posted by yogi_berra View Post
        The only numbers from the bundles that would be meaningful for platform stats are the downloads.
        Not really as alot of people are pigs and will download items they will never use anyways. If they had to donate for each specific version on the OS then you would eliminate those pigs and would be able to easily say something like

        "of the 600 donators of the xyz version people paid on average zyx amount." You would be allocating that donation specifically to one OS.

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        • Originally posted by Moller View Post
          I know that I most likely only feeding the troll, but in the steam file within http://store.steampowered.com/public...213f46436c7659 there are these strings:


          They have most likely been found before, and are probably also out of interest.
          So, steam has support for linux 2.2? That doesn't make much sense does it?

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          • Originally posted by devius View Post
            So, steam has support for linux 2.2? That doesn't make much sense does it?
            SURE, it does!
            And if Linux 2.2 is not running well you can give Windows 3.11 a shot...

            > strings steam | grep -i windows

            ...
            Windows
            Windows 3.11
            Windows 95
            Windows 98
            Windows ME
            Windows NT
            Windows 2000
            Windows XP
            Windows 2003
            Windows Vista
            Windows 7
            Windows 2008
            ...

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            • Well steam isn't supported on older platforms, so perhaps those strings are there as to prevent it from loading on ancient systems. Just a guess. Oh and 100th post

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              • Originally posted by snuwoods View Post
                Well steam isn't supported on older platforms, so perhaps those strings are there as to prevent it from loading on ancient systems. Just a guess. Oh and 100th post
                Technically, Steam isn't supported on any linux platforms as of yet.

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                • Originally posted by deanjo View Post
                  Technically, Steam isn't supported on any linux platforms as of yet.
                  So obviously those strings are for showing a message that Linux is not supported when you try to run it on a Linux box!

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                  • Originally posted by entropy View Post
                    SURE, it does!
                    And if Linux 2.2 is not running well you can give Windows 3.11 a shot...
                    What?? No MS-DOS 5.0 support? That's terrible...

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                    • Originally posted by deanjo View Post
                      Not really as alot of people are pigs and will download items they will never use anyways. If they had to donate for each specific version on the OS then you would eliminate those pigs and would be able to easily say something like

                      "of the 600 donators of the xyz version people paid on average zyx amount." You would be allocating that donation specifically to one OS.
                      So you are saying people that only have a windows installation would download Mac and linux builds? You are going to have to explain this one.

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                      • Should have commodore 64 support.

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                        • Originally posted by yogi_berra View Post
                          So you are saying people that only have a windows installation would download Mac and linux builds? You are going to have to explain this one.
                          Yup you bet, not all of them but quite a few. Many people download with "what if I do want to sometime in the future try xyz out?". I've been offered roughly 20 times already if I wanted a "copy" of HIB/HIB2 from people that don't use linux but they have all versions readily available in case someone wants that version.

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                          • Originally posted by deanjo View Post
                            Yup you bet, not all of them but quite a few. Many people download with "what if I do want to sometime in the future try xyz out?". I've been offered roughly 20 times already if I wanted a "copy" of HIB/HIB2 from people that don't use linux but they have all versions readily available in case someone wants that version.
                            That's not legit and it's infringement. You get one seat. It doesn't matter which OS and handing off the Linux installs isn't getting a Linux seat magically that you can sell to someone else. Lucky for them that Daniel and I don't view trying to chase that sort garbage down as a fruitful endeavor unless it's openly done in front of either of us. Seriously.

                            More to the point, you seem to be woefully uninformed about how they're getting their tallies on which OS paid what. That tells me you either didn't get a seat for the HIB, or you weren't paying close attention to things when you redeemed your download code.

                            What happens is when you claim your downloads for the first time, you pick your OS of choice. That is what bucket you get dropped into and subsequent downloads don't count in any figures whatsoever. In that case, your infinging associates picked their OS of choice, Windows, and became part of the Windows tally, with none of the OSX/Linux or subsequent Windows downloads counting. Same goes for anyone with OSX doing the same thing or Linux.

                            The figures given are going to be more accurate that you're painting the picture of things here if only because of that detail I just mentioned.

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                            • Originally posted by Svartalf View Post
                              That's not legit and it's infringement. You get one seat. It doesn't matter which OS and handing off the Linux installs isn't getting a Linux seat magically that you can sell to someone else. Lucky for them that Daniel and I don't view trying to chase that sort garbage down as a fruitful endeavor unless it's openly done in front of either of us. Seriously.
                              Never said I accepted it. Only that I was offered. I'm sure there were some donations as well with the intention of multiple copies. Instead of filling out the forms and transactions twice some probably lump summed the donation for more then one copy.

                              More to the point, you seem to be woefully uninformed about how they're getting their tallies on which OS paid what. That tells me you either didn't get a seat for the HIB, or you weren't paying close attention to things when you redeemed your download code.
                              You are right I never went through the process. I didn't see any value in the product. The programs offered to me didn't warrant purchasing at any price given that there are tonnes of free flash apps out there that offer a similar gaming experience.

                              What happens is when you claim your downloads for the first time, you pick your OS of choice. That is what bucket you get dropped into and subsequent downloads don't count in any figures whatsoever. In that case, your infinging associates picked their OS of choice, Windows, and became part of the Windows tally, with none of the OSX/Linux or subsequent Windows downloads counting. Same goes for anyone with OSX doing the same thing or Linux.

                              The figures given are going to be more accurate that you're painting the picture of things here if only because of that detail I just mentioned.
                              Even in that scenario there is a flaw in the counting. What happens to people who donated for multiple OS versions? With ~60% of linux users dual booting it is reasonable to expect that many downloaded for use on more then one OS. Again the results would have been far more accurate if it was setup as a donation per OS scenario where the donation would only allow the downloading for that particular OS.

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                              • Originally posted by deanjo View Post
                                The programs offered to me didn't warrant purchasing at any price given that there are tonnes of free flash apps out there that offer a similar gaming experience.
                                ..... heh. You never actually played any of the HIB games, did you?

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