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  • As the caster demo is the update for the full version of caster somebody would just install it over it if you would not want to use steam all the time. I would not call that protected then. But one thing is unlogical: when you use steam you get win AND mac version automatically (just depends which os you boot) but when you buy it directly then you get only one version. When you would think that steam would run on linux too then you could get all 3 variants with one buy.

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    • Originally posted by Kano View Post
      But one thing is unlogical: when you use steam you get win AND mac version automatically (just depends which os you boot) but when you buy it directly then you get only one version.
      I'll check into that. I think the $5 purchase is for a license for the game that is largely not specific to the SKU you're using. You should be able to run on the OS of your choice so long as you're not running on two different machines at the same time for the license you purchased.

      When you would think that steam would run on linux too then you could get all 3 variants with one buy.
      Well, there IS a reason that I need to find out what the REAL scoop is on things there... :-D

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      • Originally posted by getut View Post
        I hope that Steam for linux isn't going to be as intrusive and spyware like as steam was for Windows. Steam was basically the straw that broke the camels back for gaming for me. I really haven't played anything but quake live since. The company did not need the program running all the time, they did not need to know every time I fired up for a single player game. They did not need to be sending information about my gaming tendencies back to their servers.

        If steam for linux is something that I run when ***I*** want to update my games or download new ones but then never see again until next time I want to perform those tasks then it'll be a nice piece of software and I'LL PAY FOR GAMES.

        When my only recourse is to be treated like a criminal by the company, then I'll do just that. I'll play cracked games and cracked games only.
        As I admit that some DRM's are rather evil (Sony I am looking at you!), I never felt that Steam was bad in that way. In fact, Steam seems to be the only platform that is fair towards its end-users. For example, I can install any of my games on any computer that I wish, as long as I am not signed in on two computers at the same time. Even if I am, it will just sign me out automatically on the first computer.

        EA's Download Manager is pure crap in comparison. I bought Mirrors Edge from them (it's been a couple years now), but I had some funny time-limit from activating the game online to downloading and installing it. Also, I would have to save the downloaded files somewhere to be able to reinstall it again. In the meantime I of course lost the files and I can't re-download the game now (not that I care that much, he says it best).

        I think Steam gave Developers faith in the PC again, that they could sell their games without having to invest into idiotic, sadistic and evil contrived DRM schemes. Which actually made the games cheaper.

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        • Originally posted by Svartalf View Post
          I didn't hear that...

          You EXPLICITLY don't want to be talking that way in any public forums. I can relate about not wanting to pay them if they're going to treat you like a crook- but it's thinking like the aforementioned that has perpetuated and made things like DRM WORSE, not better. You're not entitled to the content, no matter how much you want and how much they treat you like a crook. If you don't pay, you shouldn't play- PERIOD.
          me to!
          i only play cracked games because of the copyprotection crap and drm crap. this stuff is just a virus/trojan on your computer.

          and this "you risk your home if you talk the truh in public forums because they come and hit you" is full bullshit!

          they hit you if you BUY a game .

          for that kind of people consumers are just Pigs yes Pigs free to hurt! and if they hurt more they do more profit by hurting more.

          all the time in human history thinking humans can copy books by handwriting games are just letters on papers on the PC and every human should use there rights to copy this by handwriting in modern language means copy and past torrent files.

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          • Cracked games have their place. Paying money for a game, then seeing it doesn't come with a serial number (instead having to log into some website for one...but said website is longer online) and also finding out that the game language is different to the box's (usually they label this, but not always it seems) kind of makes getting another copy a necessity.
            The whole language deal is another thing that has kept me from buying some games - I (still) can't buy games online (every time I think of getting a credit card or something similar, work has a nasty habit of being damned late with paying me) and rely upon buying off the shelf, then going through some stupid steam activation crap. Only I can't do that with some games (still can't play AvP because the damned thing won't activate in this country), and other times the only shelf copies aren't in english (which I personally need to fully enjoy a game - although often you can "obtain" the language files and/or add a crack to make it run).
            The point is though - if you're going to crack a game, at least buy it too. If you're not willing to pay the obscene amounts charged, then wait for it to hit a bargain bin. Otherwise, don't play it.

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            • I got a Garry's Mod update today:

              Updates to Garry's Mod have been released. The updates will be applied automatically when your Steam client is restarted. The major changes include:
              Fixed addons not loading on OSX/Linux
              Strange...

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              • Originally posted by FallenWizard View Post
                I got a Garry's Mod update today:



                Strange...
                Whenever you see Linux mentioned in an update it could simply be to address an issue while running the game via Wine. It's not necessarily an indication of Steam for Linux being released.

                I don't doubt that there'd be a possibility (no matter how small) of a release for Linux at some stage but there's been no publicly available proof and anyone who would have insider proof is yet to leak it in such a way as to indicate it's absolutely coming.

                Certain hints by some are just that. They could just be funnin' with us for laughs and giggles :-)

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                • rather wine support i would say HL2 linux server update that is needed to run gary's mod online/multiplayer.

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                  • Originally posted by Setlec View Post
                    rather wine support i would say HL2 linux server update that is needed to run gary's mod online/multiplayer.
                    There is no OSX server support and the update says OSX/Linux

                    Maybe Garry Newman knows more than we do

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                    • Can we PLEASE get the OP thread title changed

                      NEVER was it once said by Valve that there is going to be a linux client for STEAM, it was suggested by 3rd parties
                      So wtf can it be "official"

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                      • Originally posted by naib View Post
                        can we please get the op thread title changed
                        +1,000,000

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                        • I'd like michael's take on this one; are there any developments?
                          I think if we all held our breath on this one we'd have suffocated by now.
                          To address the many emails/inquiries from today, aside from the individualized emails I have provided on the matter, I will simply say Valve is still working on the Linux client and it is still coming. It may not be delivered on Valve's original time-line (end of Summer), but by year's end is still not out of question. I haven't made a news post of these recent matters though since there will continue to be doubters and those just trying to tarnish the Phoronix brand claiming its for ad views, etc, however, the Steam Linux client is still coming. Though beyond this statement I probably won't answer more until I have something to link to ValveSoftware.com or when there's something else to shut up those doubting this information, just take it as you will. This is just a similar situation to when I had broke the news on the new ATI "Orca" Linux driver back in 2007, SplashTop info, etc etc...

                          Besides anything that I say or from my sources, it's been independently confirmed by The Telegraph that it's coming, there's been the Steam Linux binaries shown, Steam continues to hire Linux engineers (they don't need that many for a server port, you've likely seen all the work done by Ryan "Icculus" Gordon for Linux server ports that he has individually done for major game titles), to this day you can continue to find Valve's Chris Green of recruiting saying they are really looking for Linux engineers (such as on LinkedIn), etc etc. [Not to mention that Valve was very quiet about the OS X client up until their closed beta was quite soon.]

                          Michael

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                          • Michael may have solid evidence for his assumptions but he hasn't yet shared it with any of us so we have his word only at this stage apart from a leaked "client" that could have any number of explanations for its existence.

                            Clearly it's not official. Not yet anyway. So clearly the title of this thread is inaccurate. Pretty simple really.

                            Stepping aside from the misleading title of this thread, it's still fair to contemplate the possibility but while there may be individuals with evidence they are yet to share it with the public at large, and until they share compelling evidence the possibility stays just that to me, a possibility.

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                            • Originally posted by snuwoods View Post
                              I'd like michael's take on this one; are there any developments?
                              I think if we all held our breath on this one we'd have suffocated by now.
                              You answered your own question:

                              I haven't made a news post of these recent matters though since there will continue to be doubters and those just trying to tarnish the Phoronix brand claiming its for ad views, etc, however, the Steam Linux client is still coming.
                              Of course, all of the so-called "doubters" wouldn't have had a leg to stand on had Michael simply phrased it "An anonymous source says Steam is coming to Linux." Which is technically true and not the outrageous sensationalism that bloggers use to drive up page hits.

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                              • Originally posted by snuwoods View Post
                                I'd like michael's take on this one; are there any developments?
                                I think if we all held our breath on this one we'd have suffocated by now.
                                I'd just hang loose and wait and see (while not holding your breath...)

                                I'll say he had it right with the Opening of the info from AMD- it just didn't happen quite as fast as he'd been led to believe it might've been. He also was largely right on the drivers from AMD improving (though they're not as improved as they could be- but that's AMD's doing, not Michael's...) and in this post of his, he referred to something few know...the codename for the re-worked driver codebase AMD is currently using for Windows and Linux drivers.

                                He's got info, much like I've got info. Stuff he can disclose, and stuff he plain flat CAN'T.

                                I'm not going to blithely believe him- I want proof. However, with his track record, I'm willing to give him a bit of benefit of doubt on things and not outright state he's making it up as some have in this and other threads.

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