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  • Originally posted by V!NCENT View Post
    Oh well, I guess I'll just lean back and wait for it
    I can brush away the cobwebs occasionally.

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    • Originally posted by mirv View Post
      I can brush away the cobwebs occasionally.
      Might also start selling cryo units so people can get frozen and wake up when Steam gets ported for Linux?

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      • Originally posted by mirv View Post
        I can brush away the cobwebs occasionally.
        Gearbox is now working on Duke Nuckem Forever and they are probably eager to hire a cobweb brusher

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        • Originally posted by deanjo View Post
          A denial breaks NDA's as well as a confirmation. When a NDA is in place the only allowed answer is "no comment".
          Actually, that is incorrect. A denial is as acceptable as the "no comment"- and in some cases is preferable as a "no comment" can actually be taken under the right circumstances as confirmation as a denial is a "no" and "no comment" means they're not at liberty to discuss anything (which usually means that there is the possibility of one- they can't disclose either way...).

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          • Originally posted by Almindor View Post
            Look at the LGP games and how they don't work anymore for more quick clues on linux "stability". Also ALSA/libopenal is a big mess, pulseaudio doesn't save that either.
            Well, there's a reason why. LGP used a different production method which has changed since then. The new method is very similar to the one I have used with Caster and using with Cortex Command- it uses an RPATH with select binaries produced with a cross-compile environment that pins things down to a range of libc versionings. It's little different than issues brought up with 98 versus XP at that point. I'm suspecting LGP hasn't had manpower to push out re-spins with the new method and patches (which each game in the industry has had to push out as drivers or system updates BROKE them on Windows as well...)

            Linux is simply fubar with this, even packaging static libs down to libc/libc++ level doesn't help because well.. ALSA might break (or some kernel compilation setting changes something).
            It is little different than with Windows. But people conveniently omit their woes because that's what they were used to from the Windows world. It's like a blind spot in people's minds.

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            • Originally posted by Svartalf View Post
              It is little different than with Windows. But people conveniently omit their woes because that's what they were used to from the Windows world. It's like a blind spot in people's minds.
              Agreed.

              I have no problem launching Doom 3 on my Linux system, a game from 2004. Meanwhile on Windows, an update to Internet Explorer broke the game Halo (which is only about a year older than Doom 3).

              So maybe "we" suck, but no worse than the competition.

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              • Originally posted by Svartalf View Post
                Actually, that is incorrect. A denial is as acceptable as the "no comment"- and in some cases is preferable as a "no comment" can actually be taken under the right circumstances as confirmation as a denial is a "no" and "no comment" means they're not at liberty to discuss anything (which usually means that there is the possibility of one- they can't disclose either way...).
                The statement that was given was a denial such development going on at this time. In legal terms disclosure is giving any information on the said subject. A "no" answer on a subject is a definite answer to a specific query. A "no comment" is a decline to comment. They are very different things.

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                • Originally posted by germulvey
                  Apparently Doug Lombardi was asked about a linux version of steam to which he replied they were not working on one!!!
                  Tell me it's not true?
                  http://digitizor.com/2010/08/22/valv...-linux-rumors/
                  It's true. You can't get any more official of a word.

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                  • opps somehow managed to delete when editing -DOH!

                    ""Apparently Doug Lombardi was asked about a linux version of steam to which he replied they were not working on one!!!
                    Tell me it's not true?
                    http://digitizor.com/2010/08/22/valv...-linux-rumors/""

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                    • What is really lame imo is that this thing is not a news piece on phoronix. First talking as if it was official -- while it never was -- and then failing to take responsibility for that.

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                      • Originally posted by mat69 View Post
                        What is really lame imo is that this thing is not a news piece on phoronix. First talking as if it was official -- while it never was -- and then failing to take responsibility for that.
                        That aside how many users are likely to not move to linux now and or move back to windows from linux.
                        I myself was looking forward to this to finally shed windows but now it looks like I will have to bite the bullet and stay with windows to allow steam gaming.

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                        • There are those that "need" steam in order to use linux.
                          Linux can live without them.
                          What does a native steam client in linux mean if there is no desire to use linux otherwise?

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                          • mat69, maybe Michael does know something - and 'officials' like to deny things that are just happening in the background. So just do what everybody else should do:
                            lean back, relax and don't think about it until there is a release. If there is never one, you did not waste any energy.

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                            • Can't relax.
                              Must... frag ... alien ..... life-forms.
                              Wot ! No games!! Open whoopass on Phoronix' backside (jokin').

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                              • Can't wait!!!!!

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