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  • #16
    Originally posted by mirv View Post
    Newspapers often do quote people first hand. Newspapers also have hot gossip sections where they make stuff up or just like to push their own opinion.
    There is also something called investigative journalism which rarely has the co-operation of the parties involved.


    Actually AMD's history with OpenGL is pretty good (since the catalyst program started up) - as long as you stick to spec. And they've been getting remarkably better for when you don't.
    Not sure what time line or universe you are looking at but ATI's history of ogl support has always lagged well behind the official released spec.

    Which has absolutely nothing to do with UVD.
    Never said it had anything with ogl. Just used it as another example of an item that has been present in the drivers for a while but took them ages to actually introduce.

    Really, I'm all for things pointing at AMD's drivers, but the article was an opinion dressed up as news; if that's the new direction of Phoronix, I'd suggest looking a bit more at how semiaccurate presents such things.
    The only thing presented as an opinion is your speculation. The article goes by past and present issues that are verified by the reporter first hand.

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    • #17
      Still, there are very little facts given to the story. It's mostly conjecture. The delay could be AMD, but it could very well be due to something else.

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      • #18
        Originally posted by Melcar View Post
        Still, there are very little facts given to the story. It's mostly conjecture. The delay could be AMD, but it could very well be due to something else.
        Official word.

        Hello Dean,

        Right now no, it isn't.

        --
        Denis Shergin
        CEO / Unigine Corp.
        binstream@unigine.com
        tel.: +73822553458 (office)
        tel.: +79138250566 (mobile)

        On 08.03.2010, at 1:59, Dean <deanxxxxx@gmail.com> wrote:

        Quick question, is it the ATI drivers for linux that is holding up the
        release of Heaven on linux?

        Dean

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        • #19
          Is it Fermi then

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          • #20
            Originally posted by Kano View Post
            Is it Fermi then
            Lol, I'll let you send in that email.

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            • #21
              Screw AMD/ATI and release it anyway. It will never be released for GNU/Linux if you wait for them. ATI couldn't write a driver to save their lives.

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              • #22
                ... until there is a good Catalyst release
                You might as well wait for the return of Christ.

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                • #23
                  Originally posted by deanjo View Post
                  Lol, I'll let you send in that email.
                  That is interesting. Though I think now it is Heaven 2.0 holding it up. Since they will be showing off Heaven 2.0 at GDC. They are perhaps waiting until then or after to release the new version of Heaven complete with linux support.

                  Either way I'll ask them at their booth next week. That certainly threw me for a loop.

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                  • #24
                    Originally posted by deanjo View Post
                    I hope when Fermi comes out they still won't be waiting for ATI to fix their drivers to release the linux version.
                    My guess, Nvidia will be first to release working drivers with the Fermi.
                    I don't care about ATI, they kind of useless for 3D on Linux.
                    Proprietary drivers are buggy and crushing. Open source drivers are even worth. The whole "excitement" about KMS is worthless. I do not know anyone using CRT monitor today (flicker free) and most people does not care about boot process. My 75 years old step father's computer, usually has months long uptimes. What is really important for average user is VIDEO PLAYBACK !!! and STABILITY !!! and gaming.
                    The rest is nice to have.

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                    • #25
                      So it's not ATI's drivers that's holding things up - thanks deanjo!

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                      • #26
                        Straight from the horse's mouth, so to speak. Good to have some facts for once.
                        Going back to the discussion, it could be that at this point Unigine is preferring to wait for both vendors to have their hardware/software available so that they can ensure proper compatibility with both.

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                        • #27
                          Originally posted by Melcar View Post
                          Straight from the horse's mouth, so to speak. Good to have some facts for once.
                          Going back to the discussion, it could be that at this point Unigine is preferring to wait for both vendors to have their hardware/software available so that they can ensure proper compatibility with both.
                          Oh come on... No offense, though, now that the Unigine devs have stated that fglrx, on which a fair bit of the most vocal users here enjoy taking a dump at every single opportunity like it was a national sport*, isn't at fault, everything's just fine and dandy, and pure "for the best of our users" logic?
                          Nvidia strong-arming smaller players is far from new, you know... Hence I steer clear of their products as much as I can, their gear might deliver (might be ok for those all about "what's best for me, here and now"), though in my view the company doesn't, not in a long term, sustainable and healthy competitive way.

                          * since you in particular usually take a more rational approach, it makes your comment all the more surreal heh

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                          • #28
                            That's why we need more info on the subject. We at least now know for sure that fglrx isn't what's holding back the release at this point in time. The idea that nvidia is the cause is just as much speculation as Unigine themselves wanting to wait; we just don't know. I don't like to point fingers based on assumptions and speculation.

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                            • #29
                              Originally posted by Melcar View Post
                              That's why we need more info on the subject. We at least now know for sure that fglrx isn't what's holding back the release at this point in time. The idea that nvidia is the cause is just as much speculation as Unigine themselves wanting to wait; we just don't know. I don't like to point fingers based on assumptions and speculation.
                              Point taken. However, the windows version has been out for a while, the GTX 480's launch is planned for the 26th of march, nVidia has a Unigine-demo up http://www.youtube.com/v/vpdPSZB8A8E

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                              • #30
                                All theories aside, I just hope that whoever is holding it up is doing it for a very good reason, and are being nice about it. We'll just have to wait for it be released I guess.

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