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  • Few notes about Carmack's keynote at QuakeCon 2009

    Just a few tidbits from Quakecon, nothing linux specific but there is a comment about the next source code release.

    • Carmack stated that the source code for Wolfenstein: Enemy Territory is almost ready to be released and just needs approval from ZeniMax. The release of the Doom III source code will most likely happen sometime after the release of Rage, again pending ZeniMax approval.
    Currently Rage is set to be released sometime in 2010, but that could change as we all know.

    • Carmack says their experiment with Quake Live will continue for a while (you can expect to see new maps, skins and other content) but admitted that their initial business revenue model with in-game ads isn't working as well as they had hoped. They hope to gain more revenue by adding a premium service down the road that will let people buy their own Quake Live servers.
    Nothing about linux ports though. Notice that everything is tagged, pending Zenimax approval now.

    Rest of the highlights (or lowlights depending on POV) can be found here:

    http://news.bigdownload.com/2009/08/...te-highlights/

  • #2
    well most likely quake live will have a linux port also Mac OS too, if i believe the QuakeLive forums. Also "IF" ZeniMax don't bother about linux let's hope that IdTech 4 engine will be released ASAP after the Rage release date. It sadden to me to say that i've lost my faith in Id Soft for linux gaming!

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    • #3
      Well, it was among the announcements that the mac and linux versions of QuakeLive were going to be available on august 18,I believe.

      http://www.joystiq.com/2009/08/14/ma...inpage_joystiq

      I didnt see that part about the Wolf Enemy Territory source code release. I thought Carmack meant the source code for their iphone version of wolf3d. It's great to see Wolf:ET source code too if it's the case.

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      • #4
        the wolf3d iphone source code is already available at Id Soft FTP!

        cheers

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        • #5
          How are they going to deal with the Creative Labs patent for the shadow code?

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          • #6
            they will probably remove from the source code.

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            • #7
              Originally posted by Irritant View Post
              How are they going to deal with the Creative Labs patent for the shadow code?
              IIRC pretty much all the previous code releases had some sterilization done to it before release.

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              • #8
                Well, if they flat out removed it, that would suck, because the shadows are one of the major features of the engine that separate it from tech 3. I guess they could rewrite it the way Darkplaces did it, and the way we did it for CRX, making changes to avoid the patent infringement, but my hope was that Creative Labs would just drop this whole frivolous code patenting bullshit in the first place. It's an utterly ridiculous concept to patent code. Seriously, I should just patent some absurdly common code just to show how stupid it is.

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by Irritant View Post
                  Well, if they flat out removed it, that would suck, because the shadows are one of the major features of the engine that separate it from tech 3. I guess they could rewrite it the way Darkplaces did it, and the way we did it for CRX, making changes to avoid the patent infringement, but my hope was that Creative Labs would just drop this whole frivolous code patenting bullshit in the first place. It's an utterly ridiculous concept to patent code. Seriously, I should just patent some absurdly common code just to show how stupid it is.
                  Ya, I've been working on getting my "Hello world" code patented.

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                  • #10
                    Hmmm ET source release? Didn't expect that, but it is really good news!

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by Julius View Post
                      Hmmm ET source release? Didn't expect that, but it is really good news!
                      Interesting. I wonder if anyone is planning on doing a free implementation of the game, la OpenArena. Open Enemy Territory perhaps?

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by whizse View Post
                        Interesting. I wonder if anyone is planning on doing a free implementation of the game, la OpenArena. Open Enemy Territory perhaps?
                        ET is free beer, it would be unlikely.

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                        • #13
                          Ah, that's right!

                          Perhaps some of the mods will go stand-alone? We'll see...

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                          • #14
                            I think it is more interesting to see the engine advancments done already to the quake3 engine ported to the ET engine.
                            ET has much better scripting and gameplay features already included, which would make it together with a modern renderer really a nice platform to make (open-source) mods on.

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by L33F3R View Post
                              ET is free beer, it would be unlikely.
                              Yeah, but only Open Arena is Free Beer AND Free Speech. ET is only Free Beer. Very different. The point of OpenArena is not that it's just a freebie, but that all its contents, graphics, sounds, animations, are 100% FREE software-like. ET gfx, sounds, and such are closed and copyrighted.

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