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  • iD bought by ZeniMax

    Title says it all really.
    from here
    Doom, Fallout, Oblivion, Wolfenstein, Carmack, Howard... all in one company.

    Two of the most acclaimed game development studios of all time are joining forces. ZeniMax Media, parent company of Fallout 3 and Elder Scrolls development studio Bethesda Softworks, announced today that it is purchasing legendary Doom and Wolfenstein studio id.

    In an interview with Kotaku, id co-founder John Carmack, id CEO Todd Hollenshead and ZeniMax CEO Robert Altman said the purchase will change none of the principles or principals of id and Bethesda but will allow id to grow like it never has before. The purchase does not affect plans for previously announced games from id that are slated for release through other publishers, including the Activision-backed Wolfenstein and the EA Partners-planned Rage.

    Why did id sell?

    "We're really getting kind of tired competing with our own publishers in terms of how our titles will be featured," Carmack said. "And we've really gotten more IPs than we've been able to take advantage of. And working with other companies hasn't been working out as spectacularly as it could. So the idea of actually becoming a publisher and merging Bethesda and ZeniMax on there [is ideal.] It would be hard to imagine a more complementary relationship. They are triple A, top-of-the-line in what they do in the RPGs. And they have no overlap with all the things we do in the FPSes."

    Hollenshead said ZeniMax's acquisition will allow id to grow its internal teams, staffing up the groups working on the next Doom — which will now be a ZeniMax game — and the Quake Live team, for starters.

    The goal, explained Carmack, is for id to handle all of its own IPs. "We can build the pipeline and have a regular pipeline of releases."

    Altman described the deal as a "win for fans of id." He said the deal came about when Hollenshead approached him. ZeniMax had been looking to acquire developers and wanted id, but didn't know it was available until approached. The merger had been in the works for months, according to the men on the call today.

    In a press release for today's news, Altman laid out a vision for a robust id: "We, along with many others, consider id Software to be among the finest game studios in the world, with extraordinary design, artistic and technical capabilities. They have demonstrated, repeatedly, that rare ability to create franchise properties that are critical and commercial successes. Our intention is to make sure id Software will continue to do what they do best – make AAA games. Our role will be to provide publisher support through Bethesda Softworks and give id Software the resources it needs to grow and expand."

    No co-developed games are planned at this time. But, they joked, getting those Fallout bobbleheads into Rage would be fun.
    press release can be seen here
    Last edited by Aradreth; 06-24-2009, 01:15 PM. Reason: add press release

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    Last edited by Melcar; 06-24-2009, 01:35 PM.

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    • #3
      Originally posted by Melcar View Post
      I think iD would remember the groin shot.

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      • #4
        Damn, I'd rather see a merger of iD and Bioware.

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        • #5
          Will they still publish id Tech 4 under the GPL?

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          • #6
            Originally posted by deanjo View Post
            Damn, I'd rather see a merger of iD and Bioware.
            Bioware is owned by EA...

            Melcar that's pretty close to what I was thinking.

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            • #7
              Originally posted by Aradreth View Post
              Bioware is owned by EA...
              Still applies. Considering Zenimax has never been kind to linux and now Carmack is no longer head dude future ports of even iD's games look bleak.

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              • #8
                Lucky me I did not put my money on an ID Tech engine. That can burn a couple of people if this one turns out bad

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by deanjo View Post
                  Still applies. Considering Zenimax has never been kind to linux and now Carmack is no longer head dude future ports of even iD's games look bleak.
                  I dont recall them being hostile, more like indifferent. In any case afaik Zenimax doesnt put its companies on a tight leash. Oblivion was one of the very few recent games i recall that doesn't have copy protection on it's retail discs as well.

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by Raven3x7 View Post
                    I dont recall them being hostile, more like indifferent.
                    Yeah that's the impression I got as well.

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by Raven3x7 View Post
                      I dont recall them being hostile, more like indifferent. In any case afaik Zenimax doesnt put its companies on a tight leash. Oblivion was one of the very few recent games i recall that doesn't have copy protection on it's retail discs as well.
                      Did you even need the CD Key for Fallout 3? I just remember using it for GFW Live.

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by KDesk View Post
                        Will they still publish id Tech 4 under the GPL?
                        Good question, Im asking that myself too. Since they are now owned by Zenimax, and I dont know about them, but Bethesda does not care and probably has contempt about linux/FOSS, so it's a big question mark now. I dont know if it's relevant, but one time I emailed Bethesda's dev team's blog about possibly re-releasing Daggerfall for linux or releasing its source code, they quickly replied "We will NOT be releasing Daggerfall as a freeware or any other type of release at anytime." Looks like they didnt read any part of the question besides the word release.

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by deanjo View Post
                          Still applies. Considering Zenimax has never been kind to linux and now Carmack is no longer head dude future ports of even iD's games look bleak.
                          from the official zenimax press release:

                          "id Software will continue to operate as a studio under the direction of its founder, John Carmack. No changes will be made in the operations of id Software in the development of its games. All the principals at id Software have signed long-term employment contracts, assuring they will continue in their roles developing games at the studio."

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by yogi_berra View Post
                            I think iD would remember the groin shot.
                            +1

                            Good question, Im asking that myself too. Since they are now owned by Zenimax, and I dont know about them, but Bethesda does not care and probably has contempt about linux/FOSS, so it's a big question mark now. I dont know if it's relevant, but one time I emailed Bethesda's dev team's blog about possibly re-releasing Daggerfall for linux or releasing its source code, they quickly replied "We will NOT be releasing Daggerfall as a freeware or any other type of release at anytime." Looks like they didnt read any part of the question besides the word release.
                            Bethesda is console pro company. They also messed up Fallout which is now more FPS than cRPG, but it's still a great game (thanks to Fallout universe). They probably don't even have idea what Open Source is or they're just doing us favor by no releasing DF, because Daggerfall is better known as buggerfall. Bethesda is definitely far from being 'By gamers for gamers' company. They don't even care what fans expect from their titles. They're rather marketing creatures.

                            Obsidian + iD this would be great.
                            Last edited by kraftman; 06-25-2009, 08:43 AM.

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by AdrenalineJunky View Post
                              from the official zenimax press release:

                              "id Software will continue to operate as a studio under the direction of its founder, John Carmack. No changes will be made in the operations of id Software in the development of its games. All the principals at id Software have signed long-term employment contracts, assuring they will continue in their roles developing games at the studio."
                              Do you really believe press releases? Buy-outs almost never go the way the press release states, just look at what happened to Bioware yesterday. They were dissolved and merged with Mythic to form EA's new RPG division.

                              If this buy-out goes the way id's site states it might be a good thing as id will basically be self publishing, but until someone at id says something publicly about source releases and ports, I wouldn't plan on anything.

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