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  • You Can Now Play UT3 On Linux, Sort Of

    Phoronix: You Can Now Play UT3 On Linux, Sort Of

    The Linux client for Unreal Tournament 3 still hasn't been released, but it's now possible to easily play this game on Linux. Cedega 7.1 was released this morning and it now supports Unreal Tournament 3 along with better supporting Bioshock, Elder Scrolls IV: Oblivion, FEAR 2, Medal of Honor Airborne, and Sins of a Solar Empire...

    http://www.phoronix.com/vr.php?view=NzEyMg

  • #2
    Is it safe now to claim that the linux version of UT3 was a hoax?

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    • #3
      There's one word too many in the title...

      I'd reckon Cedega is far more Sort Of than Play.

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      • #4
        I hope these guys go bankruptcy. They deserve it. And I'll feel sorry only for the "normal" guys that work there and have a family.

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        • #5
          Gamespy stomped on UT3 Linux

          Blame them, the work was already all done by icculus

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          • #6
            Originally posted by twelvedogs View Post
            Blame them, the work was already all done by icculus
            You have any proof of that? Last thing heard from icculus was some 1/2 finished screenshots that showed a lot of work still having to be done.

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            • #7
              Originally posted by deanjo View Post
              You have any proof of that? Last thing heard from icculus was some 1/2 finished screenshots that showed a lot of work still having to be done.
              the original chat, this is some info on the problems with the server release which point to problems with gamespy, however This just suggests it costs too much to port games with gamespy based networking to mac/linux, so not proof as such, no.

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              • #8
                Originally posted by deanjo View Post
                You have any proof of that? Last thing heard from icculus was some 1/2 finished screenshots that showed a lot of work still having to be done.
                the original chat, this is some info on the problems with the server release which point to problems with gamespy, however This just suggests it costs too much to port games with gamespy based networking to mac/linux, so not proof as such, no.

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                • #9
                  guys, first of all, please stop bitching about cedega and transgaming all the time !

                  They give linux players the possibility to play windows games which do atm NOT work with wine or only work very poorly.

                  E.g. Bioshock, Medal Of Honor Airborne, Red Alert 3 ...

                  At least Bioshock and red alert 3 only worked poorly in wine (with low graphics) and perfromance was not good also the last time i tried..

                  When you look at the new support games list of 7.1 you will surely notice that Bioshick is now a certified title. This game uses the UT3 engine.
                  Cause they wanted to certify this title and therefore had to get the ut3 engine working, games like ut3, medal of honor airborne also work now.

                  The fact that ut3 works in cedega now has absolutely NOTHING to do with the native ut3 client icculus is working on.

                  UT3 simply works in cedega cause of the fact they certified bioshock which uses the same engine like ut3.

                  So, tg is not as bad as you guys always claim them to be.

                  Christian

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                  • #10
                    One thing does not imply the other. Just because two games use the U3 engine does NOT imply they both work the same. Engine versions are forked on licensing and then often modified. Hence Bioshock can work with their modified U3 but another U3 might not.

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by christian_frank View Post
                      guys, first of all, please stop bitching about cedega and transgaming all the time !
                      I believe it is based on the personal experiences of the people making the commentary. My results have varied and I've not been overly impressed with either side of the equation- though I've been more impressed with Codeweavers and WINE than I've been with Transgaming from their very beginnings. Many of the titles I've got work better in WINE or Codeweavers than they ever have on Cedega. (Which, unfortunately, is a relative concept...) Of course, you can make a go at discounting my own impressions since I work as a consultant for the "competition", but I've been at using this stuff well before I took to porting games. I've been at this whole Linux thing for years now.

                      They give linux players the possibility to play windows games which do atm NOT work with wine or only work very poorly.
                      Actually, I've found the situation often reversed between them and WINE.


                      At least Bioshock and red alert 3 only worked poorly in wine (with low graphics) and perfromance was not good also the last time i tried..
                      When was the last time you tried it?

                      When you look at the new support games list of 7.1 you will surely notice that Bioshick is now a certified title. This game uses the UT3 engine.
                      Cause they wanted to certify this title and therefore had to get the ut3 engine working, games like ut3, medal of honor airborne also work now.
                      One does NOT equate to the other. What certifying one means is that you have less work to certify the others. And not all bugs in one are present in the other. An engine is a library of stuff that enables the game to be done. When someone buys a license they get the right to modify the crud out of the thing for at least one title.

                      This typically happens on most of the games out there.

                      The fact that ut3 works in cedega now has absolutely NOTHING to do with the native ut3 client icculus is working on.
                      Heh... This would be the first one you got right so far. The ire, though, is that there was a working native client that has YET to be released because of idiotic legal tangles. Which piece of middleware that presents this issue remains to be seen. The frustration about icculus versus Transgaming "making it possible to play it on Linux" is that we could have had this MONTHS ago had the BS not transpired the way it was with the native port- something they're still promising us at this point in time, even though it's well over a year overdue from when they initially thought it was going to happen.

                      UT3 simply works in cedega cause of the fact they certified bioshock which uses the same engine like ut3.
                      Uh. No. Certifying one does NOT lead to the other. It just makes it more likely to have less bugs is all.

                      So, tg is not as bad as you guys always claim them to be.
                      So far, you've not really gone to show that they're wrong- only that your personal experience with the titles you mention have been "great".

                      All one has to do to realize that this isn't really the case in the big-picture sense of things is to point someone to the example of EVE Online, who had CONTRACTED with Transgaming to provide Linux support, only to drop it some 8-ish months later because they couldn't deliver and WINE was doing a vastly better job- and to that end, they tell their customers that're running Linux to go do that and that would be the supported route for them to play.

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by christian_frank View Post
                        guys, first of all, please stop bitching about cedega and transgaming all the time !
                        I think the reason why people here complain about Cedega is because they used wines code without contributing to the wine project. They didnt exactly break the license, but they didnt exactly abide it either. If they would just contribute there improvements to the wine project we'd all be better off.
                        Last edited by duby229; 03-09-2009, 10:18 PM.

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by bulletxt View Post
                          I hope these guys go bankruptcy. They deserve it. And I'll feel sorry only for the "normal" guys that work there and have a family.
                          They are actually.
                          http://www.gamespot.com/news/6204585...dlines;title;1

                          List of creditors Midway ows money to:
                          http://www.gamepolitics.com/2009/02/...039s-creditors

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                          • #14
                            I used Cedega once and wasn't satisfied with it's experience. Also the EVE-Online disaster give them the rest. I'm not going to use it ever again.

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by red_team316 View Post
                              Heh... It's interesting to note that Midway owes 1.975 mil in royalties according to the creditor list for the 11 filing they made last month. More entertaining is the 150 million they own Wells Fargo in unsecured loans to them.

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