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  • Are tuxgames and LGP the same company??

    from www.netcraft.com:

    Site http://www.tuxgames.com

    Hosting HistoryNetblock Owner IP address OS Web Server Last changed
    Empics Sports Photo Agency, Nottingham 195.85.232.70 Linux Apache/2.2.8 Fedora 12-Aug-2008
    Linux Game Publishing LTD 81.168.26.52 Linux Apache/2.2.6 Fedora 1-May-2008
    Linux Game Publishing LTD 81.168.26.52 Linux Apache/2.2.4 Fedora 8-Nov-2007
    Linux Game Publishing LTD 81.168.26.52 Linux Apache/2.2.3 Fedora 6-Jun-2007
    Linux Game Publishing LTD 81.168.26.52 Linux Apache/2.0.52 Fedora 31-May-2005
    Linux Game Publishing LTD 81.168.26.52 Linux Apache/1.3.27 Unix Red-Hat/Linux mod_ssl/2.8.12 OpenSSL/0.9.6b DAV/1.0.3 PHP/4.1.2 mod_perl/1.26 8-May-2004
    Eclipse Networking Limited 81.168.26.52 Linux Apache/1.3.27 Unix Red-Hat/Linux mod_ssl/2.8.12 OpenSSL/0.9.6b DAV/1.0.3 PHP/4.1.2 mod_perl/1.26 23-Oct-2003
    Brighton 80.4.203.81 Linux Apache/1.3.27 Unix Red-Hat/Linux mod_ssl/2.8.12 OpenSSL/0.9.6b DAV/1.0.3 PHP/4.1.2 mod_perl/1.26 19-Oct-2003
    DEMON ADSL CUSTOMER 62.49.72.244 Linux Apache/1.3.27 Unix Red-Hat/Linux mod_ssl/2.8.12 OpenSSL/0.9.6b DAV/1.0.3 PHP/4.1.2 mod_perl/1.26 31-Jan-2003
    DEMON ADSL CUSTOMER 62.49.72.244 Linux Apache/1.3.23 Unix Red-Hat/Linux mod_ssl/2.8.12 OpenSSL/0.9.6b DAV/1.0.3 PHP/4.1.2 mod_perl/1.26 23-Dec-2002

    Organisation Tux Games LTD, 17 Rossington Rd, Nottingham, NG2 4HX, United Kingdom

    IP addres: 217.40.45.139

    Site http://www.linuxgamepublishing.com

    Organisation Linux Game Publishing Hostmaster, 17 Rossington Rd, Nottingham, Notts, NG2 4HX, United Kingdom

    IP addres: 217.40.45.140

    WOW, what a coincidence! Same address, only last number different in IP, linux game publishing even is the freaŽing netblock ownner for tuxgames.com!

  • #2
    There's a point to this info?

    Tuxgames is selling non-LGP games for years now. Why should anyone care who owns them as long as I can buy Linux titles?
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    • #3
      Yes, I believe they are. I think that's a fairly well-known fact.

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      • #4
        I didn't know they were the same company (or owned by the same company), but I did know they shared the same ISP... Now the tuxgames domain seems to be property of LGP... So maybe LGP is the parent company of TuxGames, however it is nice that TuxGames sells non-LGP titles as well as LGP's... Kind of the e-store for LGP?

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        • #5
          Originally posted by Thetargos View Post
          I didn't know they were the same company (or owned by the same company), but I did know they shared the same ISP... Now the tuxgames domain seems to be property of LGP... So maybe LGP is the parent company of TuxGames, however it is nice that TuxGames sells non-LGP titles as well as LGP's... Kind of the e-store for LGP?
          The strange thing is that LGP also sells their own titels trough www.linuxgamepublishing.com .

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          • #6
            Originally posted by Eragon View Post
            The strange thing is that LGP also sells their own titels trough www.linuxgamepublishing.com .
            Why would that be strange? You're using the same e-store backend when you do that. Tux-Games is owned by the same owner as LGP and predates (if memory serves right) LGP.

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            • #7
              Originally posted by Thetargos View Post
              I didn't know they were the same company (or owned by the same company), but I did know they shared the same ISP... Now the tuxgames domain seems to be property of LGP... So maybe LGP is the parent company of TuxGames, however it is nice that TuxGames sells non-LGP titles as well as LGP's... Kind of the e-store for LGP?
              More the sister company, really, as Michael Simms described it to me in the past. It's e-store backend is the one that LGP's site uses to sell it's titles online. It'd be silly for Michael Simms to not sell other studios' and publisher's stuff out of Tux-Games. If you're thinking that's incestuous...the music and movie industries are quite a bit moreso and there's similar deals going on elsewhere in the games space...

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              • #8
                Originally posted by Svartalf View Post
                More the sister company, really, as Michael Simms described it to me in the past. It's e-store backend is the one that LGP's site uses to sell it's titles online. It'd be silly for Michael Simms to not sell other studios' and publisher's stuff out of Tux-Games. If you're thinking that's incestuous...the music and movie industries are quite a bit moreso and there's similar deals going on elsewhere in the games space...
                Steam anyone?

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                • #9
                  Oh okay, just curious, who is the owner of LGP and tuxgames, then?

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by Svartalf View Post
                    More the sister company, really, as Michael Simms described it to me in the past. It's e-store backend is the one that LGP's site uses to sell it's titles online. It'd be silly for Michael Simms to not sell other studios' and publisher's stuff out of Tux-Games. If you're thinking that's incestuous...the music and movie industries are quite a bit moreso and there's similar deals going on elsewhere in the games space...
                    Only thing missing with either is to also offer their catalog (or part there off, as some titles are too old and may require some changes to the installer/runtime executable [*cough*Shogo*cough*]) as on-line download titles, maybe at a lower cost, but with the disadvantage of not getting a boxed set, printed manuals, etc.

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by Eragon View Post
                      Oh okay, just curious, who is the owner of LGP and tuxgames, then?
                      Michael Simms? (I really do not know, but I know Michael Simms is one of the owners?)

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by Thetargos View Post
                        Only thing missing with either is to also offer their catalog (or part there off, as some titles are too old and may require some changes to the installer/runtime executable [*cough*Shogo*cough*]) as on-line download titles, maybe at a lower cost, but with the disadvantage of not getting a boxed set, printed manuals, etc.
                        /me sighs...

                        For the umpteenth time, folks...

                        If it wasn't licensed for online publication, you can't go back through and make downloads of this stuff available as you would be committing a willful infringement.

                        Easiest rule of thumb on things is to keep telling yourself that Copyright does NOT work the way you think it does and you can't turn around and apply Web 2.0 type answers to the problems as you'll get yourself into serious trouble without the signoff of all the involved parties.

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by gilboa View Post
                          Steam anyone?

                          - Gilboa
                          Heh... That'd be a nice example of that sort of situation, actually...

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by Thetargos View Post
                            Michael Simms? (I really do not know, but I know Michael Simms is one of the owners?)
                            How about "the" owner?

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by Svartalf View Post
                              /me sighs...

                              For the umpteenth time, folks...

                              If it wasn't licensed for online publication, you can't go back through and make downloads of this stuff available as you would be committing a willful infringement.

                              Easiest rule of thumb on things is to keep telling yourself that Copyright does NOT work the way you think it does and you can't turn around and apply Web 2.0 type answers to the problems as you'll get yourself into serious trouble without the signoff of all the involved parties.
                              I know we've been all over these kind of discussions, but still, negotiating the rights for on-line publishing (especially coming from LGP) would be awesome, and very welcome by many users. I know that if it wasn't licensed for such "marketing and sales" it simply won't happen... Still might be interesting if Michael Simms or the executives at either/both LGP and TuxGames could also acquire the rights for e-publishing (I'm thinking particularly about Deck13 ported games by RuneSoft).

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