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  • #16
    Originally posted by ChrisXY View Post
    But that's not a direct reason, is it? I mean, it's just another feature like "If the platform supports dx11 then use it, if not use whatever wine has". A direct reason would be that it'd be too much work maintaining all this.
    Yeah, with Xbox One, DirectX 11 will be more important.

    I guess Wine could need better 64-bit support and mixed 32/64-bit support.

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    • #17
      Originally posted by duby229 View Post
      skyrim crashes during the game load. Civ V seems to work flawlessly with the exception that the ground textures are missing, they just show up black. Supreme Commander seems to load, I can hear the background music as if the game is running, but it just loads a black screen and clicking around randomly doesnt seem to do anything.

      According to the report made these games should all work with these d3d9 patches. I'm very interested to try it out.
      Skyrim at least should work fine with vanilla wine. I can't speak for Supreme Commander, though.

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      • #18
        Originally posted by ChrisXY View Post
        Nothing about input? In wine 1.5.13 raw input worked well, in 1.6 it works, but mouse warp doesn't work anymore in at least Risen, so you can only rotate about 360 degree before hitting the edge of the window.
        I had no problems at all with minecraft using wine, you could turn 360+ degree without any problem. Although in this and some other games, if you move the mouse too fast it can get out of the window and get released from the game. Happened to me both in minecraft and KaM but only in windowed mode.

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        • #19
          Originally posted by ethana2 View Post
          If they're not accepting FOSS d3d9 drivers in WINE, then they're pulling a Sun Microsystems. Maybe WINE is being turned into the next MySQL? A fork would also allow for a rebranding.. How much of WINE is from codeweavers vs community contributors?
          you should relax a bit, if you really trying to compare codeweavers to sun microsystems then you need some new perspectives. As for how much wine is from codeweavers and how much from the community, no idea, but I as a community member with little programming knowledge support wine development by supporting codeweavers and I am happy I do, they do a lot for wine and I doubt wine would be where it is now without them.

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          • #20
            Well if you consider the amount of games that don't even use directx 10 yet, still lots of games coming out that only use 9 it won't be that long before wine actually becomes truely awesome, especially for older titles.

            Liam of GamingOnLinux.com

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            • #21
              Originally posted by liamdawe View Post
              Well if you consider the amount of games that don't even use directx 10 yet, still lots of games coming out that only use 9 it won't be that long before wine actually becomes truely awesome, especially for older titles.

              Liam of GamingOnLinux.com
              Well that all is going to change with Xbox One.

              Yeah, before most games used DirectX 9 so they could be ran on old consoles like Xbox and Xbox 360.
              But now with Xbox One, all new games are probably going to use DirectX 11.

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              • #22
                Originally posted by uid313 View Post
                Well that all is going to change with Xbox One.

                Yeah, before most games used DirectX 9 so they could be ran on old consoles like Xbox and Xbox 360.
                But now with Xbox One, all new games are probably going to use DirectX 11.
                I'm not sure what the exact number is, but I'd be willing to guess that there are thousands of d3d9 games. Many of which are awesome.

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                • #23
                  Originally posted by ethana2 View Post
                  If they're not accepting FOSS d3d9 drivers in WINE, then they're pulling a Sun Microsystems. Maybe WINE is being turned into the next MySQL? A fork would also allow for a rebranding.. How much of WINE is from codeweavers vs community contributors?
                  Without NVIDIA or AMD/ATI support its useless.

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                  • #24
                    Originally posted by Thaodan View Post
                    Without NVIDIA or AMD/ATI support its useless.
                    But there is AMD support

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                    • #25
                      Originally posted by GreatEmerald View Post
                      But there is AMD support
                      But AMD privative and opensource drivers in compatibility and performance on wine sucks in this moment

                      Nvidia privative drivers is required if you want compatibility and performance on wine in this moment
                      Last edited by pinguinpc; 08-03-2013, 04:20 PM.

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                      • #26
                        Originally posted by pinguinpc View Post
                        But AMD privative and opensource drivers in compatibility and performance on wine sucks in this moment

                        Nvidia privative drivers is required if you want compatibility and performance on wine in this moment
                        Benchmarks please. With AMD DPM on, using r600g with an Evergreen/Northern Islands card. Because the other benchmark here in this forum says otherwise (although I agree that it's not tested on Wine).

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                        • #27
                          Originally posted by GreatEmerald View Post
                          Benchmarks please. With AMD DPM on, using r600g with an Evergreen/Northern Islands card. Because the other benchmark here in this forum says otherwise (although I agree that it's not tested on Wine).
                          This improvements only have importance into system but in wine done work

                          You have investigate on WineAPPDB from actual state from various apps on wine (especially games)

                          Im maintainer for wine since 1.1 versions and have tested wine in lastest 5 years on hardware ATI and NVIDIA in this years

                          this is my actual apps maintained (for see this you must be have register on wineappdb)

                          appdb.winehq.org/objectManager.php?sClass=maintainerView&iId=168847 &sTitle=Your+Maintained+Apps

                          And this is my blog with my work register at this time

                          http://gamesonwine.blogspot.com/

                          ATI has improvements (before ATI cards not have capable display SM3.0 games, actually works much more titles but performance and compatibility still far awaycompared to nvidia)

                          If you have wine with performance and compatibility, your only choice is nvidia with privative drivers

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                          • #28
                            Even though open source AMD drivers are slower than Catalyst at the moment, in wine with d3d gallium they will probably be faster. Why? No OpenGL translation overhead...

                            NVIDIA proprietary drivers will be left in dust in Wine...

                            Let's hope they will accept this... It is gallium-specific, yes, but it costs them nothing to include this...

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                            • #29
                              Originally posted by TemplarGR View Post
                              Why? No OpenGL translation overhead....
                              It's nowhere near that high. You don't suddently get 2-5x better performance without doing some huge, huge optimizations everywhere.

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                              • #30
                                Originally posted by Teho View Post
                                It's nowhere near that high. You don't suddently get 2-5x better performance without doing some huge, huge optimizations everywhere.
                                He was referring to the gallium3d d3d9 state tracker and with wine patched appropriately to use it. I havent seen benchmarks yet and I still havent tried it for myself yet, but I'm almost finished with another project so I will be trying it out soon. Even with only a 50% performance gain over wines stock d3d9 it would be worth it.
                                Last edited by duby229; 08-04-2013, 11:09 AM.

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