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    Phoronix: Systemd 203 Is A Good Release, Brings New Features

    Lennart Poettering has announced the release of systemd 203. With this latest release of the widely-used Linux init daemon replacement, Lennart calls this a "good release" for Linux distributions to use and should be the version targeted for Fedora 19...

    http://www.phoronix.com/vr.php?view=MTM2NjQ

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    Systemd is moving ahead full steam, upstart keeps crawling.

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    • #3
      Is that cheap shot aimed for Ubuntu or just in general observation. Because upstart is just fine for what it does,same thing for sysv. I am surprised how little relevance do people give to init system and what it takes to replace it .It's not just some component that you dump and leave it it's a huge deal to replace one with another. It might be fine for Archlinux users who take full responsibility for their choice in choosing specific init system,that includes all bad and goods with it.

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      • #4
        i dont want upstart on my ubuntu i want systemD

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        • #5
          If poettering continues his pace on systemD he will soon throw away the Linux kernel and integrate it from scratch

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          • #6
            Originally posted by kUrb1a View Post
            It might be fine for Archlinux users who take full responsibility for their choice in choosing specific init system,that includes all bad and goods with it.
            Actually, the Arch Linux devs chose systemd and itís nearly impossible to use something else now. (Everything is possible but all official packages are made for systemd.)

            I hope the systemd devs will stop breaking and changing things soon. Still havenít found how to make it not hang at shutdown if I donít manually unmount sshfs before.

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            • #7
              Originally posted by stqn View Post
              Actually, the Arch Linux devs chose systemd and itís nearly impossible to use something else now. (Everything is possible but all official packages are made for systemd.)

              I hope the systemd devs will stop breaking and changing things soon. Still havenít found how to make it not hang at shutdown if I donít manually unmount sshfs before.
              Can't you create a unit or something that does this automatically before shutdown??

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              • #8
                Originally posted by stqn View Post
                Actually, the Arch Linux devs chose systemd and itís nearly impossible to use something else now. (Everything is possible but all official packages are made for systemd.)
                Sorry but this just isn't true. The "upgrade" to systemd rather broke many things. Please don't spread FUD.

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by stqn View Post
                  Still havenít found how to make it not hang at shutdown if I donít manually unmount sshfs before.
                  Do you have it mounted as '_netdev' in your /etc/fstab? If not, your network interface might already be down before your system tries to unmount your sshfs mountpoint.

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                  • #10
                    I remember about a year ago when Arch and Fedora were switching to systemd, everyone was complaining and saying what a crap project it is. Now suddenly everyone likes it. I think it's just a common case of ignorance where people wanted to hate it because 1 person loudly stated disapproval, but when they tried it for themselves they realized it wasn't bad at all. Obviously it has it's flaws and might've been adopted a little sooner than it should've, but so far the only thing I dislike about systemd is I still can't figure out how to restart alsa.

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by 89c51 View Post
                      Can't you create a unit or something that does this automatically before shutdown??
                      I tried, but calling unmount from a script run at shutdown doesnít work. systemd stills tries to unmount it.

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by Nuc!eoN View Post
                        Sorry but this just isn't true. The "upgrade" to systemd rather broke many things. Please don't spread FUD.
                        Hmm? Thatís what I wrote.

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by gwelter View Post
                          Do you have it mounted as '_netdev' in your /etc/fstab? If not, your network interface might already be down before your system tries to unmount your sshfs mountpoint.
                          That sounded promising, but Iím not launching sshfs from fstab and this:
                          $ sshfs 192.168.0.2:/media/disk /mnt/computer -o _netdev
                          returns:
                          fuse: unknown option `_netdev'

                          Iíve searched the web some more for this _netdev option but without much success so far.

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by stqn View Post
                            Hmm? That’s what I wrote.
                            Ah, I'm sorry I have misunderstood your sentence. I thought you said that "Arch devs were forced" to switch to systemd.
                            Nice we came to an aggreement

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by stqn View Post
                              That sounded promising, but Iím not launching sshfs from fstab and this:
                              $ sshfs 192.168.0.2:/media/disk /mnt/computer -o _netdev
                              returns:
                              fuse: unknown option `_netdev'

                              Iíve searched the web some more for this _netdev option but without much success so far.
                              Hmm, I've tried it on an Ubuntu installation. Even via fstab the _netdev option is ignored. It should work because the Arch Linux documentation I found specifically mentions this.

                              Another option for automatically mounting/unmounting sshfs is putting some scripts in the ifup/ifdown section of your distro.

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