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  • Canonical's Bazaar Still In Stagnant State

    Phoronix: Canonical's Bazaar Still In Stagnant State

    With Canonical allocating its resources elsewhere, the Bazaar revision control system has fallen stagnant...

    http://www.phoronix.com/vr.php?view=MTMyNzc

  • #2
    I think mozilla still uses bzr

    They originally picked it because it was more windows friendly than git.

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    • #3
      If the system is finished and working why any more commits? If it's not broken don't fix it.

      Michael is now officially on anti-Canonical vendetta.

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      • #4
        When you have Git and Mercurial, Bazaar is simply redundant.

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        • #5
          Originally posted by smitty3268 View Post
          They originally picked it because it was more windows friendly than git.
          Do they? I thought Mozilla used mercurial (Could be wrong though)

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          • #6
            Originally posted by Ericg View Post
            Do they? I thought Mozilla used mercurial (Could be wrong though)
            Yep. Mozilla uses Mercurial and not Bzr.

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            • #7
              On related topic, Kiln (from Fog Creek / Stack Overflow guys) announced support for parallel Hg and Git repos. So every repo can be accessed with either Hg or Git clients. Sounds to me like a migration path from Hg to Git for their users.

              http://www.joelonsoftware.com/items/2013/03/11.html

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              • #8
                If it ain't broke, don't fix it.

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by quenlinlom View Post
                  If it ain't broke, don't fix it.
                  In this case it seems to be just "Don't fix it!"
                  https://bugs.launchpad.net/bzr
                  2081 open bugs
                  212 high importance bugs

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                  • #10
                    Not redundant

                    Originally posted by amehaye View Post
                    When you have Git and Mercurial, Bazaar is simply redundant.
                    Bazaar has some important features:
                    - Serverless operation. All you need to make a public repository is an SSH or FTP account. (Hg apparently also has this.)
                    - Centralized mode and bound branches. You can still have a centralized repository like in SVN and work in branches on major features, which is actually the most useful model to the vast majority of projects.
                    - Commands which are understandable to the average human. Git requires several aliases to approach sensible behavior, encourages partial commits of uncompiled, untested code, and silently commits merges if there are no text conflicts (great recipe for breaking the build). Trying to learn Git commands from the manual is an impossible task. For example, "git push" is describes as "Update remote refs along with associated objects" - what the f*** is this supposed to mean???

                    Bazaar is IMO the best tool to use in environments such as scientific programming, where the collaborators are not willing to spend a week learning how to use Git without accidentally destroying their work, and you might have no control over your server.

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                    • #11
                      From the main oss projects out there it seems only grub uses bzr. I would prefer when every project would use git.

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by ворот93 View Post
                        If the system is finished and working why any more commits? If it's not broken don't fix it.

                        Michael is now officially on anti-Canonical vendetta.
                        This.

                        This article has nothing to do with the any kernel, nothing to do with graphics drivers, mesa, OpenGL, games, audio, networking, filesystems... NONE OF IT.

                        The only reason this article exists is because he probably found himself surprised by the fact that Canonical seems to be moving so quickly with Mir as they are, and he even wrote an article about that very thing earlier today, only to finish off the article with saying that it couldn't possibly work anyway for no particular reason. And now, in order to save his face and insist that Canonical never finishes anything, he pulls up a project that is actually complete and needs no further maintenance, and which has really been replaced by Git in most respects anyway, and tries to use that as a justification for his viewpoint.

                        It's okay to criticize Canonical, but this isn't critique. This is slander.

                        EDIT: And I find it incredibly hypocritical coming from the guy who cried foul for Canonical slandering Wayland. It's one thing to be clueless, it's a completely different thing to be a deliberate hypocrite.

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by ворот93 View Post
                          If the system is finished and working why any more commits? If it's not broken don't fix it.

                          Michael is now officially on anti-Canonical vendetta.
                          This is kinda true and sad. :/

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by Ishayu View Post
                            he pulls up a project that is actually complete and needs no further maintenance
                            You must be kidding. I can only repeat the numbers, Bazaar has currently 2081 open bugs, 212 of them are marked as high importance bugs. No maintenance needed? I don't think so.

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by Ishayu View Post
                              This.

                              This article has nothing to do with the any kernel, nothing to do with graphics drivers, mesa, OpenGL, games, audio, networking, filesystems... NONE OF IT.

                              The only reason this article exists is because he probably found himself surprised by the fact that Canonical seems to be moving so quickly with Mir as they are, and he even wrote an article about that very thing earlier today, only to finish off the article with saying that it couldn't possibly work anyway for no particular reason. And now, in order to save his face and insist that Canonical never finishes anything, he pulls up a project that is actually complete and needs no further maintenance, and which has really been replaced by Git in most respects anyway, and tries to use that as a justification for his viewpoint.

                              It's okay to criticize Canonical, but this isn't critique. This is slander.

                              EDIT: And I find it incredibly hypocritical coming from the guy who cried foul for Canonical slandering Wayland. It's one thing to be clueless, it's a completely different thing to be a deliberate hypocrite.
                              Ishayu what the hell is your problem?? This isn't slander, check launchpad's own page for bzr, its been basically abandoned. Bugs arent being fixed, thats abandoned.

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