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  • Power Management To See Changes In GNOME 3.8

    Phoronix: Power Management To See Changes In GNOME 3.8

    The GNOME 3.8 release will make several user-facing changes concerning how power management is dealt with for the open-source desktop environment...

    http://www.phoronix.com/vr.php?view=MTI5MDE

  • #2
    Please Gnome Team, for the love of god give me an option to make windows start in the center of the screen instead of the top-left corner.

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    • #3
      Woho, so from 3.8, gnome has one executable, that serves as desktop, window manager, compositor (all these already in <=3.6) and (new) screensaver. Long live modularity!
      And the "inhibition" thing drove me crazy when using vlc in kde. All those damn answers from vlc-devs "it's kde's fault, not our", when kde supported the most recent inhibition draft. And now finally gnome will support it - and magically it will work on kde :/

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      • #4
        Wow, Gnome actually supporting a FDO standard they didn't create? It is a sign of the end-times, I tell you. I wonder how long before they decide to brea...*ahem*...modify it for their purposes in an incompatible manner.

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        • #5
          >Screensaver now part of the Gnome Shell executable

          Why on Earth would you do that?

          So now all *box and Unity users would need to use the fugly XScreensaver?

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          • #6
            I hope they fix the gnome-shell lock screen first, because as it is know its a buggy piece of shit. It doesn't even respect "lock after" in system settings, and sometimes it starts to get super slow (it will lock like 1 min after you hit ctrl alt l). Gnome-screensaver always worked reliably even if it wasnt pretty.

            At least they are finally supporting FD.o inhibit. Now gnome, just STICK.WITH.IT. I am so sick of them fucking breaking screensaver inhibit with every fucking release. As it is right now in several popular media players this is still broken in gnome because they removed what they were using before (gnome-screensaver -p), so mplayer/mplayer2/smplayer are broken when it comes to this in gnome 3.6. afiak the only media players with working inhibiting in gnome 3.6 is totem/vlc and gnome-mplayer 1.0.7+
            Last edited by bwat47; 02-01-2013, 07:16 AM.

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            • #7
              Originally posted by quenlinlom View Post
              >Screensaver now part of the Gnome Shell executable

              Why on Earth would you do that?

              So now all *box and Unity users would need to use the fugly XScreensaver?
              Ubuntu would of course come up with an alternate solution... Either stick with the old gnome-screensaver for a while, fork it, roll their own etc... I believe linux mint has already forked it. Afiak ubuntu already had plans to eventually use the lightdm greeter as the lock screen instead of gnome screensaver.

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              • #8
                New power feature for gnome 3.8

                User's didn't like mandatory suspend on lid close when their laptops were plugged in, because theyre earth raping, electricity wasting Gaia haters, but we gave it to them anyway!

                In same spirit we now bring you: Hibernate on Idle, and it's MANDTORY!

                You'll still use it, fuck you

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by F i L View Post
                  Please Gnome Team, for the love of god give me an option to make windows start in the center of the screen instead of the top-left corner.
                  Please. I know this is a little thing to some people, but it annoys me to no end. This is especially true because the Activities hot corner is the left corner and reaching for new windows to drag them can lead to unwanted overview activation.

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by quenlinlom View Post
                    >Screensaver now part of the Gnome Shell executable

                    Why on Earth would you do that?

                    So now all *box and Unity users would need to use the fugly XScreensaver?
                    Wait, what!? Screensavers still exist!?

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by cbamber85 View Post
                      Wait, what!? Screensavers still exist!?
                      Of course - though nowadays it usually is set to "blank", but it is still a screensaver.

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                      • #12
                        Give me a break...

                        Ugh, the anti-GNOME circlejerk here is utterly ridiculous. For one, all of you rage over a whole bunch of "mandatory" features that really any half-wit with two minutes of Gnome Tweak Tool and DConf Editor usage could solve. Sure, is it placed directly in Control Panel? No. But to say that this is all just a bunch of crap that's forced down your throats when, in most cases, there's a little bit of tweaking involved is simply lazy.

                        Originally posted by elipsey
                        User's didn't like mandatory suspend on lid close when their laptops were plugged in, because theyre earth raping, electricity wasting Gaia haters, but we gave it to them anyway!
                        And they also gave them the ability to toggle that feature within DConf Editor: org.gnome.settings-daemon.plugins.power.
                        "But installing things is SOOOO much work. I hate having to customize."
                        Then what did you get Linux for again?

                        Originally posted by bwat47
                        I hope they fix the gnome-shell lock screen first, because as it is know its a buggy piece of shit. It doesn't even respect "lock after" in system settings, and sometimes it starts to get super slow (it will lock like 1 min after you hit ctrl alt l).
                        Okay, so I tried this out and found that you are correct here (with respect to not adhering to "lock after" in system settings). However, this does work when set to "lock after screen turns off," which is a small problem, but not necessarily one that can't be overcome by simply adjusting screen blanking time. And those who think it's somehow unreasonable to have a shell that performs screen lock only after the screen has shut off (we're not talking about suspend/hibernate here) perhaps would be equally as interested in complaining about the Common Cold and gas prices.

                        Originally posted by bwat47
                        Ubuntu would of course come up with an alternate solution... Either stick with the old gnome-screensaver for a while, fork it, roll their own etc... I believe linux mint has already forked it. Afiak ubuntu already had plans to eventually use the lightdm greeter as the lock screen instead of gnome screensaver.
                        Ah sure, you're right. Who needs suggestions? FORK ALL THE CODE!

                        Originally posted by schmalzler
                        Woho, so from 3.8, gnome has one executable, that serves as desktop, window manager, compositor (all these already in <=3.6) and (new) screensaver. Long live modularity!
                        Uh, Mutter is the compositor, Gnome Shell is the window manager/desktop, and Nautilus can also act as a desktop side-by-side Gnome Shell. But it's such a shame that we couldn't segment GNOME into 500 other components so that there are even more lovely dependencies on install time.
                        Last edited by Prince781; 02-01-2013, 10:35 AM.

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by Prince781 View Post
                          Ugh, the anti-GNOME circlejerk here is utterly ridiculous. For one, all of you rage over a whole bunch of "mandatory" features that really any half-wit with two minutes of Gnome Tweak Tool and DConf Editor usage could solve. Sure, is it placed directly in Control Panel? No. But to say that this is all just a bunch of crap that's forced down your throats when, in most cases, there's a little bit of tweaking involved is simply lazy.



                          And they also gave them the ability to toggle that feature within DConf Editor: org.gnome.settings-daemon.plugins.power.
                          "But installing things is SOOOO much work. I hate having to customize."
                          Then what did you get Linux for again?


                          Okay, so I tried this out and found that you are correct here (with respect to not adhering to "lock after" in system settings). However, this does work when set to "lock after screen turns off," which is a small problem, but not necessarily one that can't be overcome by simply adjusting screen blanking time. And those who think it's somehow unreasonable to have a shell that performs screen lock only after the screen has shut off (we're not talking about suspend/hibernate here) perhaps would be equally as interested in complaining about the Common Cold and gas prices.


                          Ah sure, you're right. Who needs suggestions? FORK ALL THE CODE!


                          Uh, Mutter is the compositor, Gnome Shell is the window manager/desktop, and Nautilus can also act as a desktop side-by-side Gnome Shell. But it's such a shame that we couldn't segment GNOME into 500 other components so that there are even more lovely dependencies on install time.
                          I have a laptop, so I like to keep the screen shut off time period low to save power, but I don't like it to lock that often because its annoying, so I usually set it to 30 minutes so it only locks when I'm haven't used it for a significant amount of time. Its a setting that worked before, and this kind of thing should have easily been caught and fixed earlier than this since its a fairly obvious bug. Its not that I'm that annoyed about this one specific thing, its that this has become an increasing trend with gnome releases, being released with very obvious bugs.

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by Prince781 View Post
                            Uh, Mutter is the compositor, Gnome Shell is the window manager/desktop, and Nautilus can also act as a desktop side-by-side Gnome Shell. But it's such a shame that we couldn't segment GNOME into 500 other components so that there are even more lovely dependencies on install time.
                            Ah, so you really know about all that? Don't think so...
                            Running gnom3-session does NOT start mutter. Why? gnome-shell links against libmutter and uses functionality exposed in the lib for managing windows + compositing.
                            BUT: all in one fucking process! Make the shell (I mean desktop) hang and you won't be able to manage windows anymore. Same goes for the compositor (though it makes sense to have compositing functionality in the window manager).
                            And now gnome-shell will BE (not just start...) the screensaver. Making one procees responsible for so many different tasks is no good design :/

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by Prince781 View Post
                              Ugh, the anti-GNOME circlejerk here is utterly ridiculous. For one, all of you rage over a whole bunch of "mandatory" features that really any half-wit with two minutes of Gnome Tweak Tool and DConf Editor usage could solve. Sure, is it placed directly in Control Panel? No. But to say that this is all just a bunch of crap that's forced down your throats when, in most cases, there's a little bit of tweaking involved is simply lazy.

                              And they also gave them the ability to toggle that feature within DConf Editor: org.gnome.settings-daemon.plugins.power.
                              "But installing things is SOOOO much work. I hate having to customize."
                              Then what did you get Linux for again?
                              You know... I must say I find it funny how GNOME users complain about KDE's configurability but then demand that you go into their registry editor to configure things. I much prefer going System Settings -> Power Management and then configuring that per profile easily in a readily accessible and user friendly control panel.

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