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    Phoronix: Systemd 197 Brings "Quite Some Cool New Stuff"

    Lennart Poettering announced the release of systemd 197 on Monday evening. This new release of the increasingly popular init system and service manager for Linux does introduce several new features...

    http://www.phoronix.com/vr.php?view=MTI2OTU

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    Systemd is doing the right thing; merging up the right stuff and purging out the worst shit. Easier maintenance and less distro crap. It is quite nice though to see systemd is gaining a larger community outside RH.

    Surely some neckbeardo will start forking it now because they hate Lennart and Kay. Now they can hate Auke Kok, Tom Gundersen et al. as welll since they did the right job of merging&purging. This also adds new layers to the idiotic conspiracy about systemd; Lennart is using systems as a puppet to kill children and drive everyone to Macs. Now Intel and Arch has turned evil too.

    2013 is gonna be a great year for systemd -and its haters.
    Last edited by funkSTAR; 01-08-2013, 03:01 AM.

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    • #3
      I realise there is much hate concerning systemd and Poettering.
      I've to admit I don't know the background of the story.

      All I can add is my experience on Arch:
      I had no problems so far and it's blazing fast.

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      • #4
        Didn't they just killed cronie with the new timer/calendar feature ?

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        • #5
          Cronie, dcron, distro-specific implementations.

          BTW, the most powerful argument against systemd is "PulseAudio gives problems", always. Keep that in mind.

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          • #6
            Originally posted by Alejandro Nova View Post
            Cronie, dcron, distro-specific implementations.

            BTW, the most powerful argument against systemd is "PulseAudio gives problems", always. Keep that in mind.
            I'm surprised that they haven't merged PulseAudio into systemd already, myself. :P

            I heard a rumour that the Webkit project was under consideration for being merged too.

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            • #7
              Originally posted by Alejandro Nova View Post
              BTW, the most powerful argument against systemd is "PulseAudio gives problems", always. Keep that in mind.
              Nah. The best (read most stupid) argument against it remains the "Unix pholosophy" one.

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              • #8
                Originally posted by funkSTAR View Post
                Systemd is doing the right thing; merging up the right stuff and purging out the worst shit. Easier maintenance and less distro crap. It is quite nice though to see systemd is gaining a larger community outside RH.

                Surely some neckbeardo will start forking it now because they hate Lennart and Kay. Now they can hate Auke Kok, Tom Gundersen et al. as welll since they did the right job of merging&purging. This also adds new layers to the idiotic conspiracy about systemd; Lennart is using systems as a puppet to kill children and drive everyone to Macs. Now Intel and Arch has turned evil too.
                When they merge Qt in, you will become "neckbeard" too.


                Originally posted by 89c51 View Post
                Nah. The best (read most stupid) argument against it remains the "Unix pholosophy" one.
                "Those who don't understand Unix are condemned to reinvent it, poorly." - Henry Spencer

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by LightBit View Post
                  When they merge Qt in..
                  Sure they will merge stuff with CLA. Im sure the easter bunny, pixie lot and justin bieber will comaintain as well. Oh wait systemd is about removing walled gardens, not supporting them...

                  Too bad for craptastic shit ruled under CA or CLA. That includes upstart.

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by LightBit View Post
                    "Those who don't understand Unix are condemned to reinvent it, poorly." - Henry Spencer
                    Bullshit. What solves a problem in a better way is always the best solution. The "philosophy" arguments are religion level stupid.

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by funkSTAR View Post
                      Sure they will merge stuff with CLA.
                      Qt is licensed under QPL, GPL and LGPL. They are all FSF and OSI approved licenses. You can choose a license at your discretion.

                      You don't need to sign anything to use, modify or merge QPL, GPL or LGPL code.

                      I know that you're just trolling, but it's still important to correct this sort of FUD because younger users might not know this and might believe your rabid nonsense.

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by pingufunkybeat View Post
                        I know that you're just trolling, but it's still important to correct this sort of FUD because younger users might not know this and might believe your rabid nonsense.
                        Lets make a few things clear. Systemd does not endorse CA or CLA.
                        https://plus.google.com/115547683951...ts/X3fUhyJREKq

                        Qt is a piece of shit walled garden protecting its right to close up the code by the means of CLA. Why should anyone against CA or CLA merge up Qt?

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by funkSTAR View Post
                          Lets make a few things clear. Systemd does not endorse CA or CLA.
                          CLA is irrelevant if the code is under the LGPL and GPL. It is only relevant if you want your code to be a part of the official Qt distribution, which is not relevant here.

                          You are free to fork the LGPL version to your heart's content. The only difference is that it won't kill the Qt project like it almost killed udev. So it is the exact opposite of walled garden, because you could continue to use Qt without systemd. Unlike udev.

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by 89c51 View Post
                            Bullshit. What solves a problem in a better way is always the best solution. The "philosophy" arguments are religion level stupid.
                            This is what Unix philosophy says.

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                            • #15
                              Qt is licensed under QPL, GPL and LGPL, it can't be a walled garden and anyone can use Qt, study it, modify it, adapt it, distribute it, etc., even if other people don't do the same.

                              It isn't a "shit" . Qt has quality. For example, it's used in:
                              - Autodesk Maya [8][9]
                              - Skype
                              - VLC media player [10]
                              - VirtualBox
                              - Mathematica [11]
                              - the European Space Agency [12]
                              - DreamWorks [13][14]
                              - HP [15]
                              - The Foundry's Nuke [16]
                              - Lucasfilm [17]
                              - Panasonic [18]
                              - Philips [19]
                              - Samsung [20]
                              - Siemens [21]
                              - Volvo [22]
                              - Walt Disney Animation Studios[23]
                              - RIM (Research In Motion) [24]
                              - Google Earth, Perforce Client, Qt Creator, Adobe Elements, Swipe Nokia N9 UI, etc.

                              [8] http://web.archive.org/web/201107231...-use/autodesk/
                              [9] http://web.archive.org/web/201107231...visual-effects
                              [10] http://qt.digia.com/Qt-in-Action/VLC-media-player/
                              [11] http://qt.digia.com/Qt-in-Action/Mat...fram-Research/
                              [12] http://web.archive.org/web/201107231...e/story/custom er/esa-european-space-agency
                              [13] http://qt-project.org/videos/watch/b...t_make_the_mov
                              [14] http://qt-project.org/videos/watch/u..._lighting_tool
                              [15] http://qt-project.org/videos/watch/d...oducts_with_qt
                              [16] http://qt.digia.com/Qt-in-Action/The-Foundry/
                              [17] http://web.archive.org/web/201107231...visual-effects
                              http://blog.qt.digia.com/blog/2011/1...eveloper-days/
                              http://www.businesswire.com/news/hom...User-Interface
                              http://www.thefreelibrary.com/Lucasf.....-a0169880784
                              [18] http://web.archive.org/web/201107231...d-video-system
                              [19] http://web.archive.org/web/201107231...communications
                              [20] http://web.archive.org/web/201107231...-in-home-media
                              [21] http://web.archive.org/web/201107141...stomer/siemens
                              [22] http://web.archive.org/web/201107141...bility-systems
                              [23] http://web.archive.org/web/201107141...ture-animation
                              [24] http://blog.qt.digia.com/blog/2011/1...oper-days-s-f/

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