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    Phoronix: Chrome 20 Takes Over Adobe Flash On Linux

    Google's Chrome web-browser reached version 20 yesterday and for Linux users this marks the point that the web company has taken over Flash Player support on Linux from Adobe using its PPAPI implementation...

    http://www.phoronix.com/vr.php?view=MTEyNzc

  • #2
    So when will we see PPAPI in Firefox?

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    • #3
      Pepper in Firefox

      Why doesn't Mozilla Firefox support PPAPI (Pepper)?

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      • #4
        Bad bad bad , corruption image , problems with alsa , lost frames...:/, horrible ( ATI HD 4650, catalyst 12.4)

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        • #5
          I suppose this is a chrome only thing or is/will it be possible to take advantage of this with chromium?

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          • #6
            Originally posted by R00KIE View Post
            I suppose this is a chrome only thing or is/will it be possible to take advantage of this with chromium?
            I am pretty sure this was a mistake in the post, because Chromium is the Dev OpenSource only version of the stable Google Chrome, and since the PPAPI isn't OpenSource, it is very unlikely that we will find flash directly on Chromium. So for now we have to just stay with the old version available in the repositories.

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            • #7
              Originally posted by uid313 View Post
              Why doesn't Mozilla Firefox support PPAPI (Pepper)?
              Because no plugins used it at all up to now. The PPAPI plugin is not available outside Chrome, though it is maybe possible to use Chrome's flash in another browser with PPAPI support if Chrome is installed.

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              • #8
                Chrome began lightweight but has turned into bloatware. My current Chrome install is about 107MB while Firefox 42MB. Firefox also starts faster while it was the opposite when Chrome first appeared.

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by zoomblab View Post
                  Chrome began lightweight but has turned into bloatware. My current Chrome install is about 107MB while Firefox 42MB. Firefox also starts faster while it was the opposite when Chrome first appeared.
                  Personally my 2 big problems with Firefox are :
                  1 - The syncronization (It is simply a mess... you have to store the key somewhere to simply not loose it, and If you loose that key you have to reset and key and by consequence reset all firefox have syncronized until that moment...)

                  2 - The Instability (Just yesterday, trying Firefox for 10 minutes, and it Freezed my Gnome Session 3 times, I had to hard reset because I couldn't press any key or move anything)...

                  Appart of that I am just waiting for Firefox to get a little more stable and a better Syncronization option in order to switch back... Because we have to admit... Chrome is getting worse and worse, bigger day after day, and even Fedora don't want Chromium on their official repositories even know that it is opensource (ou can read this post explaining why http://ostatic.com/blog/making-proje...isnt-in-fedora).

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by aliasbody View Post
                    I am pretty sure this was a mistake in the post, because Chromium is the Dev OpenSource only version of the stable Google Chrome, and since the PPAPI isn't OpenSource, it is very unlikely that we will find flash directly on Chromium. So for now we have to just stay with the old version available in the repositories.
                    PPAPI is very much open source (the code is BSD licenced) and Chromium supports the API the same way as Chrome. Flash is closed source so it obviously isn't going to be shipped with Chromium by default. However it's quite easy to install the Flash player included in Chrome to Chromium. I'm personally running Chromium 20.0.1132.43 with Flash player 11.3.31.208 (PPAPI).

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by aliasbody View Post
                      I am pretty sure this was a mistake in the post, because Chromium is the Dev OpenSource only version of the stable Google Chrome, and since the PPAPI isn't OpenSource, it is very unlikely that we will find flash directly on Chromium. So for now we have to just stay with the old version available in the repositories.
                      PPAPI is an open api, chromium supports it, but probably won't come with the flash plugin included.

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by AlbertP View Post
                        Because no plugins used it at all up to now. The PPAPI plugin is not available outside Chrome, though it is maybe possible to use Chrome's flash in another browser with PPAPI support if Chrome is installed.
                        Well if Firefox adopted it too, then both Firefox and Chrome would support it, then perhaps other browsers would start to support it too.
                        Then having it supported by Flash, maybe Java, Silverlight/Moonlight, etc could be ported to PPAPI.

                        Because I heard PPAPI is more secure, so that's a good thing.
                        Either way, maybe not necessary. Silverlight is dead, and Oracle is fuckin' up with Java, so applets are dead and dying more too. Only Flash is left, and its dying too in favor of HTML5.

                        Maybe PPAPI is too little too late. PPAPI sounds great, but its something we should have gotten 10 years ago.

                        Originally posted by zoomblab View Post
                        Chrome began lightweight but has turned into bloatware. My current Chrome install is about 107MB while Firefox 42MB. Firefox also starts faster while it was the opposite when Chrome first appeared.
                        I noticed this too. Chrome starts slow now and its huge.

                        Originally posted by aliasbody View Post
                        Personally my 2 big problems with Firefox are :
                        2 - The Instability (Just yesterday, trying Firefox for 10 minutes, and it Freezed my Gnome Session 3 times, I had to hard reset because I couldn't press any key or move anything)...
                        If one single application can freeze the whole desktop session then perhaps the problem is deeper than that software being buggy.

                        I think a buggy application shouldn't be able to freeze the whole desktop session.
                        Maybe this is a problem with graphics device drivers, GNOME, or X.org?

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                        • #13
                          Just tried it... i don't know if i'm doing something wrong, but now i'm unable to use gpu to decode the streams (mms.cfg is properly configured) and when i open it in fullscreen i just see the left half of the video... on my right head (dual head setup).
                          All used to work fine with flashplugin 10.3.183.10, now it is a mess with 11.3.31.208 on this Nvidia 9600GT.

                          Great, let's back to firefox with the old flashplugin and flashvideoreplacer with vlc plugin.

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by uid313 View Post
                            Well if Firefox adopted it too, then both Firefox and Chrome would support it, then perhaps other browsers would start to support it too.
                            Then having it supported by Flash, maybe Java, Silverlight/Moonlight, etc could be ported to PPAPI.

                            Because I heard PPAPI is more secure, so that's a good thing.
                            Either way, maybe not necessary. Silverlight is dead, and Oracle is fuckin' up with Java, so applets are dead and dying more too. Only Flash is left, and its dying too in favor of HTML5.

                            Maybe PPAPI is too little too late. PPAPI sounds great, but its something we should have gotten 10 years ago.



                            I noticed this too. Chrome starts slow now and its huge.


                            If one single application can freeze the whole desktop session then perhaps the problem is deeper than that software being buggy.

                            I think a buggy application shouldn't be able to freeze the whole desktop session.
                            Maybe this is a problem with graphics device drivers, GNOME, or X.org?
                            Already thought of that but using my Arch Linux installation with Gnome 3 since he came out, and just the 10 minutes when I tested Firefox, I just clicked to close the syncronization window and the DE Freezed... But you know.. I am being a little bit hard with Firefox and I know it. Without Firefox most of the people will continue to use IE, and the Web and Chrome in particular wouldn't be as advanced as they are today.

                            The real thing I love about Firefox is the GTK integration, and all the OpenSource commitment they made.

                            As for me saying that the PAPPI was closed source.. sorry about that I didn't search too much and talked before knowing, big mistake there :S

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by uid313 View Post
                              Why doesn't Mozilla Firefox support PPAPI (Pepper)?
                              Originally posted by TobiSGD View Post
                              So when will we see PPAPI in Firefox?
                              How about we don't Implement PPAPI and instead put a bullet in Flash's head?

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