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    Phoronix: Microsoft: The Unlikely Sponsor Of Linux

    Besides the Fedora hot dog marketing strategy going on at LinuxTag in Berlin, another interesting aspect of this leading German Linux conference is the sponsors for this year's event. Microsoft and Nokia are among the leading sponsors...

    http://www.phoronix.com/vr.php?view=MTEwNzE

  • #2
    Lol, Oracle and Open Office. Last year the Libre Office guys used gurillia tactics and offered people to replace their Oracle collar with Libre Office ones

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    • #3
      The abstract for the Microsoft openness talk by James Utzschneider: "Microsoft has become increasingly open as a company and increasingly focused on investing in standards and interoperability as a way to provide customers with flexibility and choice, helping them optimize their mixed IT environments. In this, his second Linux Tag talk, James Utzschneider, Microsoft’s General Manager for Competitive Strategy, will share his perspective on Microsoft’s openness journey – including the company’s commitment to cross-platform interoperability, its current relationships with open source technologies and communities, and how customers and partners are responding."
      BULLSHIT.

      http://www.h-online.com/open/news/it...8-1584387.html

      Microsoft has published its product lineup for Visual Studio 11 and open source developers are noting that the new line up will cause particular problems for creators of open source desktop applications on Windows. The company is planning to drop support for desktop-style applications from the free-of-charge Visual Studio Express, meaning that developers will only be able to develop Metro applications with it.

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      • #4
        We still have hot dogs!

        Yeah, come to have a Beefy Miracle hot dog to celebrate Fedora 17 release

        Btw. I think the iBand was even worst than Microsoft... But in Czech Republic we had LinuxExpo, smaller version of LinuxTag. After Microsoft started to sponsor it - it was renamed to Open Source Conference and now it's dead! But there's community - so welcome LinuxDays (this year hold together with OpenSUSE and Gentoo conferences!).

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        • #5
          But if that makes people move to mingw (with QtCreator or some other IDE), we can finally use C99 on WIndows!

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          • #6
            Wow...
            So, in order for this to be even marginally meaningful,

            1) Send Nokia back to Symbian/Meego,
            2) Hand over all the patents,
            3) Quit throwing chairs.

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            • #7
              Originally posted by AnonymousCoward View Post
              But if that makes people move to mingw (with QtCreator or some other IDE), we can finally use C99 on WIndows!
              Better:
              C# "desktop" developers may just have a look at mono which would probably get quite pushed to be at least the same quality as .Net.. Wich would have the nice effect that all those native c# apps that do nothing on the system level will be compatible with mono on linux.

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              • #8
                Keep your friends close and your enemies closer.

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                • #9
                  Microsoft is only sponsoring these events so that they can control the dialog there to some extent. In exchange for the money, the event will feel like they owe it to Microsoft to let them hijack the event and start talking about Microsoft software instead of Free and Open Source software.

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by ChrisXY View Post
                    C# "desktop" developers may just have a look at mono which would probably get quite pushed to be at least the same quality as .Net.. Wich would have the nice effect that all those native c# apps that do nothing on the system level will be compatible with mono on linux.
                    Didn't think about that part, more about projects that are intended to be cross-platform from the start, and since Windows people want to use MS's crappy C compiler can't use C99 (ok, new projects in pure C are probably not that common these days).

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                    • #11
                      Michael,

                      Can you for a second be more polite, stop feeding trolls and stop being a troll yourself?


                      You use too many loud, highly offending and humiliating words and expressions like "VirtualBox Linux kernel drivers are tainted crap", "Windows 8 is mostly a crap wreck", etc.

                      I understand it's your opinion, but Phoronix is not some kind of blog, it's a prominent Linux news resource. Most likely Linux in the next 20 years will not reach a market share Windows 8 will being to occupy in 12 months.

                      VirtualBox kernel drivers works just fine and have never caused crashes or anything like that for 99.999% of people.

                      Be a man.

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by kraftman View Post
                        Which is entirely different from VC10's lack of MFC without paying.

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by birdie View Post
                          Michael,

                          Can you for a second be more polite, stop feeding trolls and stop being a troll yourself?


                          You use too many loud, highly offending and humiliating words and expressions like "VirtualBox Linux kernel drivers are tainted crap", "Windows 8 is mostly a crap wreck", etc.

                          I understand it's your opinion, but Phoronix is not some kind of blog, it's a prominent Linux news resource. Most likely Linux in the next 20 years will not reach a market share Windows 8 will being to occupy in 12 months.

                          VirtualBox kernel drivers works just fine and have never caused crashes or anything like that for 99.999% of people.

                          Be a man.
                          Actually, phoronix is kinda a blog. To be more precise, its a forum, even if that isn't the explicit intention. BTW, its much more manly to say something shocking that you don't find in news sources than it is to suck up to a corporation and use prissy words so people like you can feel more comfortable. If the news is legitimate and gets the point across without too much bias, then just deal with it if you hear a slang word or cuss every once in a while. It is NOT manly to state offense to something that isn't a big deal at all, and to make an insulting accusation to a (generally) non-profit provider.

                          FYI, the virtualbox drivers being "tainted crap" wasn't Michael's words. I would say that wording it like that was a little excessive, but virtualbox drivers are pretty bad. You're better off using VirtualGL, at least for non-windows guests.




                          Anyways back to the topic, I have a feeling that either Steve Ballmer doesn't know this stuff is going on or MS is trying to mess with our heads by suddenly being so supportive of linux. Sure there's a small possibility that they accept it is a worthy competitor and in many cases is better than their own products, but a company like that would never admit such a thing. A company that makes their own product just in spite of destroying the competition doesn't just suddenly sponsor and accept something they outwardly hated. I don't like the feel of this.

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by AnonymousCoward View Post
                            But if that makes people move to mingw (with QtCreator or some other IDE), we can finally use C99 on WIndows!
                            No they won't. People that need to work on c++ desktop apps will just buy VC11. MinGW can't link to system libs, so you are stuck supporting all of your dependencies.

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                            • #15
                              So, this is another case of Embrace, extend and extinguish?

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