Announcement

Collapse
No announcement yet.

Maximal: A New Open-Source License...

Collapse
X
  • Filter
  • Time
  • Show
Clear All
new posts

  • #61
    Originally posted by Paradox Uncreated View Post
    "the licence allows it" ?

    One talks about mine being legally weak, and this even is completely horrenduous?
    About legallity, I can`t imagine a court, saying "ok, someone took your code and released it as closed source, we can`t see your licence covering this". How full of shit is it possible to get in these courts?

    [..]
    Peace.
    You throw all that shit and you end up saying "peace"? in any case your trolling won't change the fact that if I want to release my code under the BSD license, I will, and that's because I DON'T CARE going to court or some other people making forks (privative or not) of my code ...

    It's a tool, and i'ts the right tool for the right job ... if I picked that tool, is because it clearly accomplishes the job I wanted to do.
    Funny thing, seems that GNU zealots thinks that no ones read the licenses (the short and full legal text) before picking one for the code ...

    Wake up GNU hippie, no one's morally obligated to "give back"

    Comment


    • #62
      Calling me a GNU hippie, is ofcourse completely missing the point.

      If there is any sane people among you, have a look at this:

      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D61ur...eature=related

      Have a look at this video from Iran.
      Look at the buildings there. No obscene advertisting.
      Instead quranic verses of morality, and decency.

      That is how the west should be.

      Comment


      • #63
        It's like Qaridarium finally snapped and his alter ego is now posting

        Or actually, exactly like Qaridarium is posting.

        Comment


        • #64
          You are mindless enough to think that is some user you have a personal issue with too? That actually seems to be common online too. It`s "him" or "this or that". If you combine your querulantia with paranoia, you have a well known psychiatric disease.

          Comment


          • #65
            As I have experienced rumourmills online before, and seen their pathetic behaviour, I have made a little website, with information on, only supporting people like me. That means people with the logic ability of a hacker, yet a monotheist. So you can expect the same logic sensibility as a fine tuned assembly program, from this.

            So any confusion with any other user should be quite uneccesary. As they do not posess this knowledge, and it is rare, in the typically starved west, on these issues.

            http://www.paradoxuncreated.com/theology.html

            This website is a temporary though, and I am working on learning webdesign aswell, to put forth this information better.

            Peace.

            Comment


            • #66
              I have truly enjoyed this thread. Please, continue.

              FWIW, I recommend ditching the background for your site. It's impossible to read anything. You'd be better just leaving it black.

              Comment


              • #67
                Originally posted by Paradox Uncreated View Post
                only supporting people like me. That means people with the logic ability of a hacker, yet a monotheist. So you can expect the same logic sensibility as a fine tuned assembly program, from this.
                This. Is. So. Perfect.

                I'm grabbing the popcorn.

                Comment


                • #68
                  Originally posted by Paradox Uncreated View Post
                  Who do you think you are as an inhabitant of the democracy? Democracy means peoples rule. All you need is awareness, and you can change anything by politics.
                  You don't live in the U.S. (where huge corporations are "people" and buying politicians is "free speech"), do you?

                  Comment


                  • #69
                    Seems like a good start. But even if the language is tightened and the details filled in, is the basic concept enforceable? If Oracle buys the company (and the companies copyrighted Maximal works) what stops them from changing to a different proprietary license? As the copyright holder, they have the legal right to change the license they use for works they own.

                    Comment


                    • #70
                      ... and 'open source' is such a well defined legal concept. That crap is crapity crappy crap. Why was this even posted on phoronix? People constantly come up with garbage licences (just look at the GPLv3 mess).

                      Comment


                      • #71
                        Originally posted by zerothis View Post
                        If Oracle buys the company (and the companies copyrighted Maximal works) what stops them from changing to a different proprietary license? As the copyright holder, they have the legal right to change the license they use for works they own.
                        They have the right to change the license of the code that they distribute, but they can't change the license for the code that is already in the open and the derivatives of that. The GPL itself covers this point explicitly I believe, so it's more enforceable there, but I think that most courts would also uphold the right for existing works to keep their existing license. It's impossible to enforce it in any other way, although Oracle is one of the few companies that I wouldn't put it past to try.

                        Comment


                        • #72
                          Congratulations to the author. You are still topping the "Hottest Messages" on LKML even though there's not a single reply

                          Comment


                          • #73
                            I'd like to go on record as at least one legitimate reply.

                            Originally posted by randomizer View Post
                            They have the right to change the license of the code that they distribute, but they can't change the license for the code that is already in the open and the derivatives of that.
                            Actually, its been done. there's this recent news <http://www.geekosystem.com/take-work...public-domain/>. But this is hardly the first time. For a mind boggling explanation of how all copyright law in the US is unconstitutional, whimsically retroactive (retroactive law is specifically forbidden by the US constitution), legally invalid, and still going to be enforced, read this: <http://hcsoftware.sourceforge.net/ja...Vashcroft.html>

                            I'll sumerise for those who don't want to read the whole thing
                            • Congress had/has the right to enact copyrights, trademarks, and patents. [ ] {place green checkmark here, ring small bell}
                            • Congress did not/has not the right to apply copyrights retroactively, but did so anyhow (making unconstitutional, their first set of laws on the matter) [X] {press buzzer}
                            • Congress did not/has not the right to extend existing copyrights, but did so anyhow (making unconstitutional, all their extensions of their fist set of laws on the matter) [X] {press buzzer}
                            • All of the congressional extensions of existing copyrights are based on extensions of the unconstitutional extension they could not make of unconstitutional laws concerning copyrights, retroactively or not, but did so anyhow (making unconstitutional, all extensions of their extensions) [X] {press buzzer}
                            • Congress may now continue as they were [?] {A hollow voice says plugh}
                            Last edited by zerothis; 05-06-2012, 04:49 PM.

                            Comment


                            • #74
                              The Beneficient Open-Source Licence.

                              I renamed and improved the licence.

                              "This program, plugin or function is licenced under
                              The Beneficient Open-Source Licence.

                              That means that itīs source is released
                              and shall stay available openly,
                              to benefit humankind, in the path of God.
                              And that shall apply to modifications,
                              derivations, and branches.

                              Peace Be With You."

                              I ultimately plan to move my plugins to it. Read my post on how to move entire linux to it, aswell. http://paradoxuncreated.com/Blog/wordpress/?p=5801

                              Peace Be With You.
                              Uwaysi (author of the licence)

                              Comment


                              • #75
                                If you want a relatively simple license that keeps your code out of big companies, there's always the JSON license.

                                http://www.json.org/license.html

                                Unfortunately the license terms had some other side effects as well :

                                http://www.wonko.com/post/jsmin-isnt...on-google-code

                                Comment

                                Working...
                                X