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    Phoronix: Adobe Announces Plans To Abandon Flash On Linux

    Adobe has issued a statement this morning that they will effectively be abandoning Flash Player support on Linux. After Flash Player 11.2 they will no longer be providing updates for Linux users but just maintaining the 11.2 release. Google is expected to take over with a Flash Player implementation based upon a new API, but only for Google Chrome-based web-browsers...

    http://www.phoronix.com/vr.php?view=MTA2MDc

  • #2
    Well this was kind of surprising... Lets hope this means that flash will die and be replaced by something better (and more open).

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    • #3
      Originally posted by Azpegath View Post
      Well this was kind of surprising... Lets hope this means that flash will die and be replaced by something better (and more open).
      You haven't heard of Canvas?

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      • #4
        I'm not surprised after them dropping Android and not even supporting Chrome on Android either

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        • #5
          Good riddance

          This will increase the pressure to switch to html5 <video>, and will improve browsers' support for it. Google will probably lead the way. Adobe's support for Linux had a third-citizenship status lately, anyway.

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          • #6
            Bad news, my gf likes to play sushi cat / sushi cat 2... u_u

            Regarding flash adobe should have been banned already, f.e. on sites like newgrounds, all content is delivered via flash, and flash requires latest version - means, your either have flash and get access, or you dont get access. Means destruction of basic internet principles and standards.

            Only ones who made this happen are developers!! JUST STOP USING FALSH PLEASE!!!

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            • #7
              Good riddance, too. flash and apple are two of the main reasons this planet sucks.

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              • #8
                Great so we are forced to use Chrome on Linux if we want flash. What a croc...

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                • #9
                  Fuck you google, I will surely not use your browser because of that.
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                  • #10
                    I think you've got it the wrong way round. Adobe are dropping Linux. Google have stepped up and said they'll support it using Pepper which any one else is free to use

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by FireBurn View Post
                      I think you've got it the wrong way round. Adobe are dropping Linux. Google have stepped up and said they'll support it using Pepper which any one else is free to use
                      You know there was NPAPI (the netscape one) already? But i'm sure google have a good reason to do a new API instead of extending/fixing the netscape one. Surely something like "we don't like it, it's old, it's obsolete".

                      I'm with mozilla not supporting PPAPI for now, the only use for this API (instead of the netscape one) is the future version of adobe flash.

                      Bye bye adobe flash.

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                      • #12
                        ...Okay; so all we have to do is convince the Mozilla developers to support the Pepper API, and they SHOULD be able to get the Flash-plugin-for-Chrome code to work with Firefox -- right? Then someone can write a script that downloads Chrome and extracts Flash and sticks it in the Firefox plugins dir. Done.

                        Then, any other webkit browsers that also want to support Flash will have to tag along and support Pepper, and then in the long term, everything will continue to work with Flash as before. It's more like "Adobe Abandons NPAPI Support On Linux".

                        Pepper API may in fact be a superior solution anyway. NPAPI was designed a VERY long time ago (90s) and I don't think it meets the needs of modern browser architectures and plugins. In fact, supporting NPAPI with such advanced browsers as Chrome requires a LOT of ugly hacks because of the design of NPAPI.

                        I'm still pissed at Adobe for basically being in Microsoft's pocket book and for dropping Android and Chrome on Android, but I don't mind them shooting themselves in the foot. Hopefully the market share of Android and Linux will continue to grow, resulting in fewer and fewer people having Flash, and eventually website owners will get enough complaints that "your site doesn't work because I don't have and can't get Flash" that they will re-write with HTML5.

                        In the end, Adobe seems to be voluntarily killing their own platform, where it would appear that their actual goal is to try and kill Linux and Linux-derived operating systems. They swing their sword arm at their enemy and the sword comes back around and slices their nose off. What a bunch of dumbfucks they are.

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                        • #13
                          So:

                          Flash 11.2 will still come out for Linux and get security updates for five years. Flash 11.2 will support all flash content for the next years anyway.

                          Google will utilize PPAPI which has several benefits for Chrome's stability and continue work on Flash.

                          First of all, that's not exactly what I would call dead. Flash is dying anyway, but from this it looks like all the Flash content will be supported until it's completely gone. Since YouTube is now serving 95%+ of the videos without Flash I couldn't care less anyway.

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by enrico.tagliavini View Post
                            You know there was NPAPI (the netscape one) already? But i'm sure google have a good reason to do a new API instead of extending/fixing the netscape one. Surely something like "we don't like it, it's old, it's obsolete".

                            I'm with mozilla not supporting PPAPI for now, the only use for this API (instead of the netscape one) is the future version of adobe flash.

                            Bye bye adobe flash.
                            The opensource Java pluggins use the new API too I beleive, there's quite a few blogs about why this new API is better. From memory I think it has a better security model from the start. If you've ever had your browser crash before starting due to dodgy plugins you'll know why this is a good thing

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                            • #15
                              Hopefully, this is just a sign that flash is on it's way out.

                              Regardless, it sounds like flash 11.2 will be maintained for quite a while - so at least i can stick with flash in Firefox, for now. Hopefully, by the time it becomes a problem, either A) flash will be less popular or B) mozilla or alternate flash implementation will be in place.

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