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    Phoronix: Qt 4.8 Draws In Platform Abstraction, New WebKit

    Qt 4.8 was released today with several new features...

    http://www.phoronix.com/vr.php?view=MTAyOTA

  • #2
    "there's 108 improvements and bug fixes available in Qt Commercial 4.8.0 that are not part of the LGPL release."

    Open source at its best.

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    • #3
      Back to square one?

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      • #4
        RTFA:
        I want to underline that this is not the intended way of differentiating our offering. Going forward I hope that we can be more aligned. I would like to see most of the current delta integrated to Qt by the time of 4.8.1, if it is possible.
        (yeah a 10 character limit is very useful, I agree, it really increases the SNR ratio of my message, don't you agree?)

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        • #5
          Originally posted by maleadt View Post
          RTFA:


          (yeah a 10 character limit is very useful, I agree, it really increases the SNR ratio of my message, don't you agree?)
          I hate this rule too, it became the stupidest one after the editing rule was fixed.

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          • #6
            "Digia, the firm handling the commercial version of this tool-kit, also announced the commercial version compared to the LGPL version of Qt 4.8; there's "108 improvements and bug fixes available in Qt Commercial 4.8.0 that are not part of the LGPL release.""

            i think they do it the other way around they put 108 bugs and feature cuts in the opensource source code to sell this digia QT Commercial shit.

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            • #7
              Originally posted by RealNC View Post
              "there's 108 improvements and bug fixes available in Qt Commercial 4.8.0 that are not part of the LGPL release."

              Open source at its best.
              Such crying won't help anyone. Maybe you expect they'll send you pizza, too? Switch to commercial version if you like. I'll rather wait for 4.8.1.

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              • #8
                Originally posted by kraftman View Post
                Such crying won't help anyone. Maybe you expect they'll send you pizza, too? Switch to commercial version if you like. I'll rather wait for 4.8.1.
                I'd rather switch to GTK+, where theres no differentiation between different users. And I agree with Qaridarium that this may be very well part of their business strategy, to get more paying customers.

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                • #9
                  You people are such morons. Maybe writing it again helps:
                  So now there is total of 108 improvements and bug fixes available in Qt Commercial 4.8.0 that are not part of the LGPL release. I want to underline that this is not the intended way of differentiating our offering. Going forward I hope that we can be more aligned. I would like to see most of the current delta integrated to Qt by the time of 4.8.1, if it is possible.

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by AnonymousCoward View Post
                    I'd rather switch to GTK+, where theres no differentiation between different users. And I agree with Qaridarium that this may be very well part of their business strategy, to get more paying customers.
                    Will you rewrite KDE in GTK+? I don't like I have to wait for Qt 4.8.1 to be on pair with commercial version, but I was surprised why someone blames entire Open Source, because of this.

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by kraftman View Post
                      Will you rewrite KDE in GTK+? I don't like I have to wait for Qt 4.8.1 to be on pair with commercial version, but I was surprised why someone blames entire Open Source, because of this.
                      Oh god of disease, please no. GTK+ whilst a okay toolkit is nowhere in the league of QT. GTK+ is not even as good as motif lol.

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by kraftman View Post
                        Such crying won't help anyone. Maybe you expect they'll send you pizza, too? Switch to commercial version if you like. I'll rather wait for 4.8.1.
                        You're missing the point.
                        While I truly believe Digia that they wish their modifications to be merged (after all it's less maintenance work), that mail highlights the problem with Qt licensing:
                        If Qt was under LGPL for everybody as it would be fair for all contributors , closed source modifications (intentional or not) would simply be illegal.

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by AnonymousCoward View Post
                          You people are such morons. Maybe writing it again helps:
                          So now there is total of 108 improvements and bug fixes available in Qt Commercial 4.8.0 that are not part of the LGPL release. I want to underline that this is not the intended way of differentiating our offering. Going forward I hope that we can be more aligned. I would like to see most of the current delta integrated to Qt by the time of 4.8.1, if it is possible.
                          That's your way of making your thinking better, insulting the rest of people not agreeing with you instead a proper argument. I love it

                          I just see a crappy bad excuse to not offering the same source, just like Apple does with CUPS and probably LLVM too. They don't follow a true FOSS development model, yet they want FOSS project follow them.

                          I don't trust Digia at all, simple as that. They are not showing a proper leadership of the project and I'm in doubt they can do it in the way other corporate sponsored projects like WebKit get developed.

                          They need to change it or Qt will be forked...

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by RealNC View Post
                            "there's 108 improvements and bug fixes available in Qt Commercial 4.8.0 that are not part of the LGPL release."

                            Open source at its best.
                            It's probably marketing Nazi speak for "We cherry picked the post-4.8 trunk patches so we could claim it's better than 4.8"

                            What do you expect from Nokia? They are Microsoft partners now.

                            It's a good thing that the open source Qt development is becoming more distant from the Vista Phone 7 promoters.

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by Rallos Zek View Post
                              Oh god of disease, please no. GTK+ whilst a okay toolkit is nowhere in the league of QT. GTK+ is not even as good as motif lol.
                              ^this

                              The Qt development libraries are enormous and feature rich. By contrast the GTK+ libraries are much more limited and also require C programming "hacks" or they'll spew out obscure stack error messages (perhaps buying greater speed and efficiency for the end-user no doubt)...

                              Qt development ftw!

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