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  • #16
    Originally posted by pvtcupcakes View Post
    I thought they already did this?
    2.6.32.46 and 2.6.27.59 are the two "LTS" kernels.
    Yes, and they went very well, so this formalizes the process to take the guessing work out of when the next LTS kernel will be. This is just The Linux Foundation agreeing that the current LTS process is a good one for those distros (and companies) interested in such things.

    So basically, nothing to see here, move along.

    BTW, if you don't like the Linux Foundation's influence, get working on Hurd, BSD, or something else. Big, bold letters aren't accomplishing anything, and the people who have to "shout" the loudest usually have the least to actually say...

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    • #17
      Originally posted by AnonymousCoward View Post
      I don't like the Linux Foundation. For me the Linux Foundation is not much different than Microsoft or Apple. Well, at least Microsoft an Apple don't lie about their objectives. There is an old saying: "He who pays the piper, calls the tune."

      The Linux Foundation, and thus Linus, are not as independent as they claim but they primarily cater to the interests of their corporate sponsors. Many of them use Linux as part of their proprietary, and encrypted, firmware. They are harmful to the freedom of the end-user.
      Sure they cater to their corporate supporters, however the thing is, it doesn't matter and is in most ways helpful. The more stuff they add in because it benefits them in some way, the more stuff F/LOSS advocates have to play around with. If you don't want a locked boot-loader, don't buy devices with permenantly locked bootloaders.

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      • #18
        Originally posted by WorBlux View Post
        Sure they cater to their corporate supporters, however the thing is, it doesn't matter and is in most ways helpful. The more stuff they add in because it benefits them in some way, the more stuff F/LOSS advocates have to play around with. If you don't want a locked boot-loader, don't buy devices with permenantly locked bootloaders.
        Name a device without a locked bootloader.
        Oh I know the PC.
        UEFI.
        Name a device without a locked bootloader.
        chirp chirp chirp chirp.

        It's not illegal to jailbreak them. So you have the right to waste your time and energy jailbreaking and if you're too stupid to figure it out then that's just tough.

        Look it's simple. If you do anything in the world you are going to create enemies and people that simply do not trust you and will not buy any shit you put out. To control the world you have to give people options that are not options.
        So your options are microsoft, equally horrible apple or you can pretend to be outside the zone of shit you hate with linux which is made by the same people with a few "trustworthy" types thrown in as cover.

        What did fedora do at end of life on 13? They just fucked networkmanager and wifi to high heavens. The kept it fucked allllll through 14 and most of 15 from what I hear. A patch just went up yesterday that is supposed to fix it. I still haven't tried it because when you try to update you are stuck with manually configuring it and it still has problems or you can just use networkmanager and keep bringing it down and restarting it to get any throughput. A 20mb patch will sit there for 100 sessions of staring at you blankly and trying other mirrors.

        I would rather pay some chinese guy for a mips chip and learn fucking mandarin that put my trust in linux. Because it's just apple OS with the same tools that they want and here's a dirty old sock as a gift.

        For 2 years linux has massively focused on networkmanager, empowering and improving python to be the most flexible and powerful spyware tool ever and tying python into the operating so much that there's no possible way you could ever get it off the system. If you are trying to run a business that competes with the business's outside of the circle of 'trust' you will have absolutely no security. They will be able to walk right into your door like your a goddamn hotel room and they got flashlights and it's watergate.

        And don't think that people haven't noticed that fedora or ubuntu tries very hard to not give you the latest open source graphics without first forcing the string of crap kernels that have been put out and 7 updates to python.
        I uninstalled dejavu and all the software that it uses just yesterday because I see fedora passing my system off to some fucking jerkwad somewhere who enjoys being able to clone my system entirely with just a few megabytes every couple days.

        I do not know what happened to me but every since fedora switched project leaders a while back and it started going to crap my ass just itches with pissed off.

        And my last session of messing with it I finally get ipv6 blacklisted and I list it out and it says it's gone and I go in and wireshark the connection and the router and every other goddamn thing in the link is just screaming it's ass off about how it's ipv6 and wants to use ipv6 protocols. And I'm just sitting here with a wtf is this shit look on my face.
        Linux is just open and honest people teamed up with cunt monkeys who have one goal complete domination of every form of communication. Because they are godamn liars and they need a complete unshakable monopolistic lock on "their version of the truth".

        And what is so wrong with living in a damn hut. It beats busting your ass trying to figure out what the liars are up to next and watching fox news and cbs for "information".

        I mean come on. Every release works kernel up to 2.26.35 and then it tries to put out a bunch of damn kernels and switch over to 3.0 kernel without a major distro working out the bugs? That's going to work. NOT.

        And I'll give you the timetable for when open source video drivers stop completely sucking. As soon as they are done fucking with networking and python and not a minute sooner. Oh and don't forget all the cloud bullshit and Arm kernel commits. Those are important too. I figure by about python 3.5 it'll make every linux box completely and totally remotely hackable as it will have.... oh i don't know, EVERYGODDAM thing in it from text processing to deep hooks into plymouth to networking to god knows what else. Then it can get converted to firmware code so that it can become extensible UEFI and your system will be workable with software you can't erase.

        I thought the linux philosophy was efficiency modularity and not possessing things it doesn't need to operate. Where the hell does python fit into that picture and why is linus worried about bootstrapping the kernel because it has so much stupid ass arm and cloud and networking and vm and junk in it. Fuck My Life meme is going to turn into Fuck My Linux meme before this decade is over.

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        • #19

          previous poster, take off your tin-foil hat and shut up , you make my belly hurt.

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          • #20
            I especially liked the part where Python is Skynet.

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            • #21
              Originally posted by Hephasteus View Post
              Name a device without a locked bootloader.
              Oh I know the PC.
              UEFI.
              Name a device without a locked bootloader.
              chirp chirp chirp chirp.

              It's not illegal to jailbreak them. So you have the right to waste your time and energy jailbreaking and if you're too stupid to figure it out then that's just tough.
              Good point. The UEFI secure boot protocol can be used to prevent the end-user from running modified/custom software on the device. This is exactly what tivoization is about. And since Linux Foundation employee Linus Torvalds has publicly stated that tivoization is a good thing, it's only logical that he also voices his support for this.

              After all if it's okay for one device manufacturer to lock it's product to a specific not user-modifiable proprietary Linux based firmware then it would only be fair if another device manufacturer is also allowed to lock it's product (e.g. laptop) to a specific proprietary Windows based operating system.

              I certainly do not want to hear him or the Linux Foundation whine if some device manufacturers decide to use UEFI to lock out any non Windows based operating system.

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              • #22
                Originally posted by Hephasteus View Post
                Name a device without a locked bootloader.
                Oh I know the PC.
                UEFI.
                Name a device without a locked bootloader.
                chirp chirp chirp chirp.
                If you buy direct from the manufacturer, rather than the carrier it's not difficult to find a phone that lets you unlock it.

                As for the rest, nobody cares, at least when you state it like that. Really dude it sounds like your amped up or whacked out.

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