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  • #16
    Originally posted by _txf_ View Post
    Note that I don't believe Bill Gates wantonly publicised himself just for fame...
    Also note that Bill Gates is no longer the boss of Microsoft, it's now Steve Ballmer. He is also not the richest person in the world anymore.

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    • #17
      @_txf_

      this is from wiki :
      Memorial Day is a United States federal holiday observed on the last Monday of May. Formerly known as Decoration Day, it commemorates U.S. Service Members who died while in the military service. First enacted by formerly enslaved African-Americans to honor Union soldiers of the American Civil War it was extended after World War I to honor Americans who have died in all wars.

      it concerns us all , but the line has something very official like he is one Very Very VIP
      "On the eve of Memorial Day in the United States and his departure to Japan for LinuxCon, Linus Torvalds just tagged Linux 3.0-rc1 in Git..."

      may be i laught too much because of those VIP$ we had these days for "Cannes the Festival" , most of them are not even working in the movies business , but they walk on the red carpet like they are greater than "yoybama" or queen mum [ both i am not found ]

      by the way , my humour is a bit black , it concerns also the writer of first post that i find too "kind" .

      for the rest and linus , that is a long time i try some distro to test linux , may be i have the headache of hearing his names only while he does not do a so great job , at least creating 5 or more "file-system" : Btrfs, EXT2, EXT3 ,EXT4, and XFS is not something so important compared to more drivers and hardwares .

      may be 3.0 should have used windows drivers as well as its file-systems and may be without any root owning for noobs that wants an easy going os instead of being a "little piece of s4it" for their own pc .
      may be 4.0 will see my idee coming to linux as well as a website where linux user would upload their windows drivers for the "reverse engineering team" to build them as linux native ...

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      • #18
        so i don't get it - are the official kernel version numbers now going to go up like 3.1, 3.2, 3.3 or 3.0.1, 3.0.2, 3.0.3?

        i wouldn't really be against such a thing since linux is kinda at it's peak in terms of features and stability. as of right now, its mostly just improving what it already does, but to me, any additional features are kind of just extra.


        i'm a little disappointed that linus is treating the version number like its no big deal, but at least he has a lot of determination to make the first 3.0 release to be a good one.

        i think what bothers me the most is i liked linux being in the 2.x series because it showed that after 20 years, it has been stable for a ridiculously long time. 3.0 is still compatible and stable with the rest of 2.0, so for people who didn't pay attention to version numbers this day and age are never going to know what really happened, and assume that there has been 3 major changes to the entire kernel. so in principal, moving to 3.0 was a bad idea.

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        • #19
          Well, a part of the problem appears to have been hardware vendors who at some point in the distant past provided Linux drivers, but stopped keeping them current long ago. Now years later they still claim to "support Linux 2.6". This practice just came to an end

          Happy Birthday, Linux!

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          • #20
            Originally posted by schmidtbag View Post
            so i don't get it - are the official kernel version numbers now going to go up like 3.1, 3.2, 3.3 or 3.0.1, 3.0.2, 3.0.3?
            The final 3.0.0 will be just 3.0 and future releases will be 3.1, 3.x. Afaik they just have to fix some scripts.

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            • #21
              Originally posted by kraftman View Post
              The final 3.0.0 will be just 3.0 and future releases will be 3.1, 3.x. Afaik they just have to fix some scripts.
              And the stable versions point releases will obviously be 3.x.x, so only three numbers instead of the current four. It will probably be easier to remember. Nice.

              PS: Linus has an Atom netbook? That has to be the highlight of this article.

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              • #22
                Oh cool! Finally Linux kernel will be on-par with MINIX. MINIX has been on version 3 forever.

                (sorry I just had to strike some joke on this one )

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                • #23
                  Somebody give Linus a top-of-the-line ThinkPad "T" series to lug around. Some pretty serious iron in a reasonably small package there. The head honcho has no business building the kernel on an Atom.

                  Other than that: I don't care about the versioning, but I do care that Linus' main goal in a kernel release is to make work easy for him. Small patches, no features, critical fixes, trivial merges. He likes that, but it does very little for us. It means that the kernel is getting stagnant, and the mindset for change and evolution is being stamped out.

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                  • #24
                    Originally posted by allquixotic View Post
                    Somebody give Linus a top-of-the-line ThinkPad "T" series to lug around. Some pretty serious iron in a reasonably small package there. The head honcho has no business building the kernel on an Atom.

                    Other than that: I don't care about the versioning, but I do care that Linus' main goal in a kernel release is to make work easy for him. Small patches, no features, critical fixes, trivial merges. He likes that, but it does very little for us. It means that the kernel is getting stagnant, and the mindset for change and evolution is being stamped out.
                    A T60 or T61 would do nicely as these machines sport dual-core Intel CPU's

                    If people follow his patch submission process things would been a LOT better and *major* changes could still be submitted for consideration. A good tip is to provide clear documentation on what a particular patch does or what bugs it fixes. Linus HATES patch submissions that are vague that's for sure. Major patches should be perhaps discussed first then if Linus gives his blessing it could be included

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                    • #25
                      I think it's great he builds kernels on an ATOM. I built 3.0-rc1 on AMD K125 (single core) equipped netbook today and it's not too bad. 10 minutes or so.

                      By the way, 3.0-rc1 with drm/mesa/xf86-video-ati from git is boringly stable so far on my netbook. You'd think I'd see some sort of spectacular regression...

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                      • #26
                        Originally posted by amphigory View Post
                        I think it's great he builds kernels on an ATOM. I built 3.0-rc1 on AMD K125 (single core) equipped netbook today and it's not too bad. 10 minutes or so.

                        By the way, 3.0-rc1 with drm/mesa/xf86-video-ati from git is boringly stable so far on my netbook. You'd think I'd see some sort of spectacular regression...
                        Guess its because Atoms are pretty much the lowest common denominator these days. Running Linux smoothly on a netbook is the aim most likely

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                        • #27
                          Ohhh noooo....

                          I have to update all my braindumps

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