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  • #31
    Originally posted by FunkyRider View Post
    Mono is evil, just get over it.
    [...]
    'doing the wrong thing'.
    Ah, because the topic's about "justice" here ?
    I thought we were talking about a framework, not politics...

    Seriously, you fanatics should calm down.
    I'm OK with using FSF-compliant technologies, but hell, I'm using whatever I like, and more important what I find more useful.

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    • #32
      Originally posted by wswartzendruber View Post
      Wow. It smells in here. The anti-Microsoft zealots have already left their fowl stinch behind.

      Are you guys for real? I, for one, liked the option of having a C# compiler on Linux.
      There were many anti-Linux and anti-KDE/Qt zealots in Novell, so I wish mono and C# will die on Linux. There are much better and ms free ways of writing a software.

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      • #33
        i think this is the end of the M$ Zombie Mono..

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        • #34
          Originally posted by bwat47 View Post
          What is with these idiotic mono-hating trolls everywhere? Its just pathetic.
          What about idiotic mono lovers trolls everywhere? Let's rewrite Linux in mono. And people wonder why ms has a monopoly. Qt is excellent toolkit which scares ms, but hey there are idiots who want to use ms tech on Linux.

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          • #35
            Originally posted by Armurier View Post
            Ah, because the topic's about "justice" here ?
            I thought we were talking about a framework, not politics...

            Seriously, you fanatics should calm down.
            I'm OK with using FSF-compliant technologies, but hell, I'm using whatever I like, and more important what I find more useful.
            Then use ms windows. There aren't bigger fanatics than mono boosters like Icaza and some Novell folks. I'm glad to hear Icaza's kicked out. If you're smart enough you should know it matters what licenses, toolkits, languages and applications should be used on Linux.

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            • #36
              I whish the devs the best.

              That said; great day both for MS and for FLOSS.

              Who needs Mono to create apps anyway? Are they lazy to learn other languages or simply incompetent to use alternatives?

              If you can't code in Java then you can't code. If you are lazy then I don't want to run your software as I hate fat software. And who doesn't?

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              • #37
                To the idiots who celebrate when developers lose their jobs: a big, warm fuck you. You have just scraped the bottom of the barrel, wishing your fellow humans pain and misery. Those people have families and children to feed, yet you laugh at their loss - fuck you.

                To the Novell developers who just lost their jobs: I wish you the best and I hope you all find new jobs soon.

                This is a sad day for FLOSS. No matter if your political views agreed or not, Novell was a significant contributor to the community.

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                • #38
                  Originally posted by kraftman View Post
                  There were many anti-Linux and anti-KDE/Qt zealots in Novell, so I wish mono and C# will die on Linux. There are much better and ms free ways of writing a software.
                  uhm...name at least one language that is that easy to code, that powerful and has such a great performance.

                  not to meantion Visual Studio, I've yet to see an IDE powerful and nice as that one.

                  don't get me wrong: I don't like Microsoft and in most cases their software is just plain bullshit. But when it comes to Visual Studio and C#, they did something wonderful. And thanks to mono, we can enjoy that, too.

                  yes, I am a C# programer. Yes I do want to learn C++ sometime, because I want to go "deeper" but as long as there is no IDE for linux that is capable of auto-completion and has a proper design, it's just pain in the ass. And yes I'm wondering how people could write such great things like the linux kernel and gnome withhout an IDE.

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                  • #39
                    Originally posted by Detructor View Post
                    uhm...name at least one language that is that easy to code, that powerful and has such a great performance.

                    not to meantion Visual Studio, I've yet to see an IDE powerful and nice as that one.

                    don't get me wrong: I don't like Microsoft and in most cases their software is just plain bullshit. But when it comes to Visual Studio and C#, they did something wonderful. And thanks to mono, we can enjoy that, too.

                    yes, I am a C# programer. Yes I do want to learn C++ sometime, because I want to go "deeper" but as long as there is no IDE for linux that is capable of auto-completion and has a proper design, it's just pain in the ass. And yes I'm wondering how people could write such great things like the linux kernel and gnome withhout an IDE.
                    code::blocks
                    eclipse

                    there. two nice ide.

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                    • #40
                      Try KDevelop

                      Originally posted by Detructor View Post
                      yes, I am a C# programer. Yes I do want to learn C++ sometime, because I want to go "deeper" but as long as there is no IDE for linux that is capable of auto-completion and has a proper design, it's just pain in the ass. And yes I'm wondering how people could write such great things like the linux kernel and gnome withhout an IDE.
                      Try KDevelop, while not quite as good as VisualStudio (nothing is, I'm afraid), it's still good, and it does support things like auto-completion and refactoring for C++ code. You get the best results (best integration) when developing for the Qt-library, but any C/C++ code is supported (as well as many other languages, with varying degree of integration). While primarily targeted at Linux, it works reasonably well on MS Windows too, once you have managed to get it setup properly (but that was a PITA last time I tried, which admittedly was a few years back, so it's most likely better now).

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                      • #41
                        Originally posted by BlackStar View Post
                        To the idiots who celebrate when developers lose their jobs: a big, warm fuck you. You have just scraped the bottom of the barrel, wishing your fellow humans pain and misery. Those people have families and children to feed, yet you laugh at their loss - fuck you.

                        To the Novell developers who just lost their jobs: I wish you the best and I hope you all find new jobs soon.

                        This is a sad day for FLOSS. No matter if your political views agreed or not, Novell was a significant contributor to the community.
                        You make quite a few nice assumptions here. Although populism always sounds well, it rarely is true.

                        1. Who says those people have "families and children to feed"? We're not in the 19th century. Most geeks I know are single and will die single.
                        2. It's not like those people are going to starve now. Germany is a social country. The worst they'll get to is still more than your average student working half time here earns. It may be poverty or something, by only by really high western standards, meaning they can't afford a car or something. They're not going to starve.
                        3. Your reply sounds like any way to earn money is correct. Sort of like "the end justifies the means". Like, if those guys were participating in some illegal business, it would still be wrong for other people to feel relieved when they got caught.

                        So there's nothing wrong about feeling well with this piece of information. Money being taken away from supporting the development of mono is always good news. And to those fired, you can only say, "if you sleep with dogs you'll wake up with fleas".

                        Good day for the foss community!

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                        • #42
                          Would people be opposed to an ISO-compliant implementation of the CLR? This would break binary-compatibility with the .NET Framework, as Microsoft didn't really follow their own standard.

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                          • #43
                            Originally posted by susikala View Post
                            1. Who says those people have "families and children to feed"? We're not in the 19th century. Most geeks I know are single and will die single.
                            Peer groups are rarely representative. I, for one, do something that can be seem as compsci in america. There are girls in OS design class and definately not only ugly ones. Next up is programming in assembly like languages for industrial PLC's and most in that class are not single or nerdy at all.

                            So there's nothing wrong about feeling well with this piece of information. Money being taken away from supporting the development of mono is always good news. And to those fired, you can only say, "if you sleep with dogs you'll wake up with fleas".
                            That's a fairly biased political view, like any other. I hate Mono but I do feel sorry for the devs.

                            Good day for the foss community!
                            Indeed

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                            • #44
                              Actually the devs could have seen it comming.

                              (There is another possibility but this has a conspiracy theme.)
                              That they are actually working for MS to create that illusion.
                              (MS keeps all control.) While pretending to be a seperate entity.

                              These developers will probably be funded by some low- profile companie if all goes according to plan. Or find other jobs.

                              C'mon dudes, it's like these people can't find another job.
                              It's not like the whole world/Europe/Germany stopped needing programmers yesterday or something like that.

                              With all discreteness and respect.
                              Mono is a farce and smoke screen.

                              It isn't actually reliable and opens up to patent suits.

                              That legally binding promise isn't actually binding.
                              And there are many other legal (and technical) problems with it.

                              Also someone needs to kick out the Mono zealot who works at Ubuntu.
                              Replacing the Gimp with some mono based crap, what a waste!

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                              • #45
                                I meant to say It's not like they can not find other jobs.

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