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  • #16
    Did MS just buy Nokia for $0?

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    • #17
      Minor Correction. Intel has dropped the Netbook spin of MeeGo.
      http://www.tomshardware.com/news/nok...lop,12169.html

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      • #18
        i'm surprised nobody has brought up what makes this situation confusing. think about it - nokia spent a lot of time, and probably money, on meego. it obviously wasn't a fluke of a project because even intel still plans to use it. so why would nokia stop using their own product?
        MS's windows phone 7 is doing the worst of all smartphone OSs, and they're a company that does literally anything to be first and wipe out competition. nokia with meego is a new form of competition. it would not surprise me if MS paid nokia a lot to stop their plans with meego, and to its place. microsoft cannot pay intel to stop doing something, and intel's plans for meego doesn't involve smartphones, it involves netbooks and tablets, which MS isn't really struggling in right now.

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        • #19
          Originally posted by Azpegath View Post
          It's a truly sad thing if Qt is affected by this, and it probably will be. Why the hell buy a great platform, improve it (I really feel they have in regards to how "hot" Qt is right now, a lot of companies are talking about it, more than ever before), and then go to bed with the Devil which will probably force you to kill it.
          Let's not overreact here. Qt cannot be killed. It is GPL and LGPL, and there is a signed contract which states that if it is not to be actively developed by Trolltech, it will become BSD-licensed. There is an active community interested in keeping it alive.

          It is still a worrying development. Trolltech has provided a stable and positive development environment for Qt, which is partly responsible for how brilliant and complete it is nowadays. It would be a hard blow should it be discontinued, and it would take a while before the community picked up enough speed to match the current pace of development.

          Originally posted by joshuapurcell
          The fact that Nokia is able to purchase something like Qt is the real issue here.
          This is an unfortunate formulation. They have purchased Trolltech, which is the company owning the copyright to Qt.

          Qt is still under both the GPL and LGPL, so even if Trolltech is terminated, most of their hackers (who are really cool people who support open source) would likely find ways to work on it.

          Thank you RMS for thinking about scenarios like this one 30 years ago. Thank you Trolltech for GPL-ing Qt when you didn't have to, and making sure that Qt stays alive whatever happens.

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          • #20
            assholes

            fucking ridiculous ! for 8 years, eight long years i was and i'm using nokia 1100 phone. i hate it but still using it gladly. why ? because it fulfils its purpose and functionality/price is adequate which cannot be said about "smartphones" and other portables with shitty names. for all these years i heard only about one device which i would like to have and it's n900. because it has a lot of stuff, all of which i can use in its full potential. no bullshit.
            but i would like slightly more - some fusion between n900 and N8, so i could completely replace my phone and laptop and do everything on that portable multi-purpose device. and that kinda device would emerge, and newest, polished version of most awesome portable multi-purpose OS, MeeGo would be rolling in it. but NO! someone had to fuck it up for me, for all of us! those little skunky, speculating, ballmer-loving, Windows™-touching prostitutes !

            eh, i should probably find latest factory revision of n900 and buy it. hope it at least as half as durable as old brick, 1100...

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            • #21
              Originally posted by pingufunkybeat View Post
              Let's not overreact here. Qt cannot be killed. It is GPL and LGPL, and there is a signed contract which states that if it is not to be actively developed by Trolltech, it will become BSD-licensed. There is an active community interested in keeping it alive.

              It is still a worrying development. Trolltech has provided a stable and positive development environment for Qt, which is partly responsible for how brilliant and complete it is nowadays. It would be a hard blow should it be discontinued, and it would take a while before the community picked up enough speed to match the current pace of development.
              True, Qt won't die as an open source project, but I think that Nokia did bring some "trust" to it for "ordinary" companies to use it.

              Nokia was once a truly creative company, just as Ericsson. They are both still the leaders in telecommunication when it comes to the "real hardware", but perhaps not (definitely not regarding creativity) when it comes to creating end-customer related content like phones. I should know, I worked at Sony Ericsson, developing Symbian smartphones, for 3.5 years.

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              • #22
                Sad news indeed.

                There was always a chance meego would flop anyway though if nokia can sell sybian smartphones is can definitly sell meego.

                Recent nokia smart phones have sucked by current standards due to sybian and really they should have got partly in bed with somebody for a nice smartphone os long ago untill meego was ready. Getting in bed with someone when meegos almost out is just puting the bullet in it. Fact that its a microsoft deal puting the bullet in makes me wonder if microsoft offered a very very sweet deal to prevent meego becoming the default os on intel compatable netbooks and tablets.

                I'll probably still get a meego phone as it'll be the only smartphone offering what I really want.

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                • #23
                  Originally posted by JantarMantar View Post
                  The new CEO seems to be risk averse and is content with Nokia being a just another hardware company.
                  The new CEO is a MS veteran, thinks their way, and decided to benefit MS at the cost of Nokia. Nokia's stock is down 13% at the moment, and I think this is not pricing in the debacle they will suffer.

                  If their goal was to be a conservative hardware shop, the decision was a no-brainer. Android. And they could have kept developing meego and make them interoperate. They should have done that a year ago. Or maybe 7 months ago, when this little mind took over Nokia

                  Shame on Nokia's board, WTF were they thinking?

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                  • #24
                    I can smell KDE taking care of Qt by forking it if Nokia throws it away.

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                    • #25
                      I was thinking of posting something about how I feel let down by Nokia for this decision and how they ate back promises they were making until a few days ago.

                      But in reality I'm so disappointed that it would just have been another rant, adding to the thousands that Nokia fans have been posting everywhere since this morning.

                      So I'll only say that wrt Nokia, all I care now is to see if for once they'll keep their word and do release something running MeeGo.

                      WP7 I leave to those who happen to like it.

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                      • #26
                        Makes sence

                        If Nokia is loosing Market share and Windows cant get anywhere with its mobile products with the last generations of its products, even wikipedia states it decreased 20% in Q3 2009...

                        They will either sink together appealing to certain users or fanboys, or make a somewhat decent show of themselves...

                        Nokia really does know how to jump the bandwagon however. Ngage, meego, symbian... I don't see their fear of Android if they play with opensource already so much.. I suppose this is something to keep them going while they play with meego and they get it ready to bash android about a bit perhaps.

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                        • #27
                          Nokia will get what it deserves.

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                          • #28
                            What a pity... you're going to bankrupt Nokia... R.I.P.
                            How sad
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                            • #29
                              Reading up on this it does look like there was recent warning signs... analists saying nokia didnt have the weight or money to make meego a success and recommending a microsoft deal.

                              Still intel is backing meego and is getting it into cars, netbooks and tablets already and its trying to get other smart phone companys onboard so we can hope something comes out.

                              Its still such a big part of intel stratagy I dont see them giving up on it yet. What would be their plan b? Port android to intel chips?

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                              • #30
                                Originally posted by myxal View Post
                                Did MS just buy Nokia for $0?
                                Looks like it. Well if I worked at Nokia, I would take a closer look at Google's recently announced job offerings for Android.

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