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  • #31
    I've tried 2.6.19-gentoo-r7 & gcc 3.4.6, because this is last release where function INIT_WORK use 3 parameters as used in Creative code. I can compile and build driver with some changes in include files(add #include linux/autoconf.h everywhere it uses kernel includes, #define UTS_RELEASE "2.6.19-gentoo-r7" in linux/version.h) Only bad thing is, that on insmod it has many unresolved symbols from alsa, so it will be some kernel among 2.6.10 and 2.6.19 hehe

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    • #32
      soo... let's just assume creative sucks. what alternatives (probably cheaper than the razer) are there for us? i want good sound in linux/windows, and well... i'll let it cost me some money, not 200€ though. i'd rather go with onboard then.

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      • #33
        Originally posted by eNTi View Post
        soo... let's just assume creative sucks. what alternatives (probably cheaper than the razer) are there for us? i want good sound in linux/windows, and well... i'll let it cost me some money, not 200 though. i'd rather go with onboard then.
        See this other discussion about the X-Fi and other ramblings about how good support you can expect for sound hardware on Linux.

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        • #34
          Besides... there are plenty of alternative sound cards that are very well supported under LInux.
          Like?
          I have researched and will mention two possible supported sound cards:
          Audiophile (2496 for e.g.)
          Delta series

          Anybody know of those? Is there any others of particular mention?

          I am interested in a sound card for overall use and in particular, music creation (using instruments).

          I was also thinking of M-Audio but doesn't Creative own them?

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          • #35
            Originally posted by Panix View Post
            Like?
            I have researched and will mention two possible supported sound cards:
            Audiophile (2496 for e.g.)
            Delta series

            Anybody know of those? Is there any others of particular mention?

            I am interested in a sound card for overall use and in particular, music creation (using instruments).

            I was also thinking of M-Audio but doesn't Creative own them?
            Why don't you check the ALSA sound card support Matrix?

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            • #36
              Originally posted by Panix View Post

              I was also thinking of M-Audio but doesn't Creative own them?
              No, E-Mu is part of Creative, but in name only.
              As of three or four months ago a lot of the E-MU line is supported by ALSA.

              I use the E-MU 1212M to A/D lots of vinyl & tape.

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              • #37
                I'm not familiar with E-Mu products, but I don't think there's many products based off the X-Fi arch.

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                • #38
                  You're right, it's not based off the X-Fi.

                  A quote from ExtremeTech http://www.extremetech.com/article2/...1562571,00.asp

                  "A Little Background"

                  "The E-MU crew designed the DSPs that have powered every Creative Sound Blaster sound card since Sound Blaster Live. The first DSP, dubbed the 10K1, featured two 64-voice hardware wavetable synthesizers, in addition to four simultaneous DSP effects in flight at once. Then E-MU produced a derivative processor from the original 10K1 design, the 10K2. 96KHz/24-bit playback was the most noteworthy new feature in this second-generation part."


                  You can read what Matrix Talk:Module-emu10k1 is saying here, http://www.alsa-project.org/main/ind...Module-emu10k1

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                  • #39
                    Originally posted by MrCanard View Post
                    You're right, it's not based off the X-Fi.

                    A quote from ExtremeTech http://www.extremetech.com/article2/...1562571,00.asp

                    "A Little Background"

                    "The E-MU crew designed the DSPs that have powered every Creative Sound Blaster sound card since Sound Blaster Live. The first DSP, dubbed the 10K1, featured two 64-voice hardware wavetable synthesizers, in addition to four simultaneous DSP effects in flight at once. Then E-MU produced a derivative processor from the original 10K1 design, the 10K2. 96KHz/24-bit playback was the most noteworthy new feature in this second-generation part."


                    You can read what Matrix Talk:Module-emu10k1 is saying here, http://www.alsa-project.org/main/ind...Module-emu10k1
                    Wow! Nice review, nice card... Will read that alsa-project link aobout the driver needed (from the looks of it is the snd-emu10k1 module), and the features available to the Linux drivers.

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                    • #40
                      Then the first post is "half" correct then someone could simply use OSS, it is free - even available as source code. Does it work or not?

                      http://developer.opensound.com/

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                      • #41
                        Originally posted by Kano View Post
                        Then the first post is "half" correct then someone could simply use OSS, it is free - even available as source code. Does it work or not?

                        http://developer.opensound.com/
                        Last I knew OSS only worked with like the XtremeAudio, their lowest-end X-Fi chip that really isn't even an X-Fi APU.
                        Michael Larabel
                        http://www.michaellarabel.com/

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                        • #42
                          there is something I don't quite understand here... E-Mu, IIRC was actually bought up by Creative weren't they? Yet none of their products seem to be currently using the X-Fi DSPs, from what I've been able to see, most of their products are still based off the architecture of the EMU10K*, so this has me wondering... Were they really bought up by Creative or did they simply provided the chips for the Live, Audigy and Audigy2 generations of cards?

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