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  • #31
    Originally posted by BlackStar View Post
    Of course, Microsoft may have something else in their minds entirely.

    Microsoft (TM) Enterprise Unix (TM) 2012 Small Business Professional Server Edition R2

    Oh, god.

    (Anyone knows how to add TM marks?)
    If they haven't done it with Xenix, why would they do it with Linux?

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    • #32
      Originally posted by yogi_berra View Post
      If they haven't done it with Xenix, why would they do it with Linux?
      *Cough-cough*
      "Apple is better because it's UNIX so I can't get a virus"
      *Cough*



      Now you do the 1+1

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      • #33
        Originally posted by BlackStar View Post
        Of course, Microsoft may have something else in their minds entirely.

        Microsoft (TM) Enterprise Unix (TM) 2012 Small Business Professional Server Edition R2
        No good before SP2.

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        • #34
          I hope this doesn't mean the end of openSUSE.

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          • #35
            Originally posted by devius View Post
            I hope this doesn't mean the end of openSUSE.
            Well, the source is out there, so that's doubtful. At worst, they might have to change names, which is not too terrible (think RHEL vs Fedora).

            That said, openSUSE hasn't been in the spotlight for quite some time now. It's a good, user-friendly distro, but it simply doesn't generate excitement, like Fedora or Ubuntu, anymore.

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            • #36
              http://www.theregister.co.uk/2010/11...opensuse_safe/

              Sounds pretty positive. Let's hope it's not just sweet talk.

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              • #37
                The only thing positive that could come out of this is Microsoft and Oracle getting in a massive lawsuit against each other which would be completely awesome because it would harm both companies, whom are both their own version of an "Evil Empire".

                Hopefully Oracle v. Google is dismissed..

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                • #38
                  Originally posted by Chewi View Post
                  http://www.theregister.co.uk/2010/11...opensuse_safe/

                  Sounds pretty positive. Let's hope it's not just sweet talk.
                  From my experience in marketing claims:
                  If they keep silent - they will usually release.
                  If they talk loud and want to assure you - they will close it very soon. They just don't want to have "rats run leaving the sinking ship" yet.

                  Somebody should really port Yast to Gentoo!

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                  • #39
                    Originally posted by V!NCENT View Post
                    *Cough-cough*
                    "Apple is better because it's UNIX so I can't get a virus"
                    *Cough*



                    Now you do the 1+1
                    1 + 1 = you're being paranoid.

                    Xenix is also UNIX. d-;

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                    • #40
                      Originally posted by NoEffex View Post
                      The only thing positive that could come out of this is Microsoft and Oracle getting in a massive lawsuit against each other which would be completely awesome because it would harm both companies, whom are both their own version of an "Evil Empire".

                      Hopefully Oracle v. Google is dismissed..
                      Google will lose. They've already been shown to have violated copyright by mixing gpl2 code with Apache2 in an Apache2 licensed project.

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                      • #41
                        Originally posted by BlackStar View Post
                        Why would a VC trio sue Red Hat? If they are indirectly, ehm, encouraged by Microsoft, you can bet the FTC will fall upon them like a flock of hungry crows.

                        Besides, what's there to sue about? The IP went to Microsoft, not Attachmate (more on that below). Attachmate may or may not have got the Unix trademark (I think Novell sold that back in 1996 or so, but I'm not sure) but that's not an issue (GNU's not Unix ;-).) They also got the source code for SUSE, Mono et al and that's about it. Most of this is safe (MIT/X11 and (L)GPL) and Red Hat doesn't use Novell's closed stuff anyway.

                        What's more worrying is the IP transfer from Novell to Microsoft. In short, Microsoft bought 882 patents from Novell (that's their whole portfolio, give or take a few), which is bound to cover some juicy bits. Now, Microsoft's intent is unclear here, and that's kinda worrying. My guess is they will be used in the mobile patent clusterfuck (Apple vs Google/Android vs Blackberry vs new Win7Mo) and might prove useful against Oracle in the not-too-distant future.

                        It is also possible that we will see some strengthened FUD against Linux but a direct attack is highly unlikely.
                        This was probably a defensive move my Microsoft. A good chunk of Novell's patents cover it's directory and enterprise remote administration products. MS offers similar products, this move prevents a patent troll from picking up the patents and using them against MS.

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                        • #42
                          Originally posted by RagingDragon View Post
                          This was probably a defensive move my Microsoft. A good chunk of Novell's patents cover it's directory and enterprise remote administration products. MS offers similar products, this move prevents a patent troll from picking up the patents and using them against MS.
                          *Sigh*

                          Bla bla bla bla....

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                          • #43
                            Originally posted by yogi_berra View Post
                            1 + 1 = you're being paranoid.

                            Xenix is also UNIX. d-;
                            1+1=Trolo lol lol lol lololololoool... "This product case needs a official proffesional Unix certified label!" -after the Microsoft designs the iPhone package video.

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                            • #44
                              Originally posted by V!NCENT View Post
                              1+1=Trolo lol lol lol lololololoool... "This product case needs a official proffesional Unix certified label!" -after the Microsoft designs the iPhone package video.
                              Ok, that video was pure genius. Thanks!

                              Extra points for being designed by Microsoft employees as a self-parody.

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                              • #45
                                Novell will continue to own the UNIX IP.
                                Read here.

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