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  • Originally posted by not.sure View Post
    Ubuntu kernels?????? phormaix uses Ubuntu kernels? I think that makes the whole thing even less useful.
    Are you sure you don't want to use plain mainline?
    Yikes. Do a modicum of research before making broad assertions...

    http://kernel.ubuntu.com/~kernel-ppa...ucid/BUILD.LOG

    Look at the details. Just a packaging and that's about it. It's the way that Canonical monitors upstream.

    You have the config, you have the commit hash. Where's the concern?

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    • Originally posted by cynyr View Post
      and suse for "patching" packages in incompatible ways.
      Would you mind expanding on that?

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      • Originally posted by deanjo View Post
        Would you mind expanding on that?
        Back in 2004 upstream xorg DRM drivers would not build against Suse/redhat mesa. In the end to get an "exotic" variant of a ati mach64 card working I ended up on gentoo and have been there ever since. With Suse and redhat I eneded up needing something like all of X on up from CVS, and i needed to run a stock kernel. The stock kernel didn't work with suse's init scripts, I forget exactly what the problem was, but it would get partway though boot and then just bail out, and almost nothing got started.

        This was also back when 2.4.x kernels were stable so distro's were carrying a huge set of backports from 2.5.x for their 2.4.x kernels. Things seem to have gotten a lot better, but I don't know for sure as i haven't played with much outside of Gentoo/Arch for a long time now. I never am able to get ubuntu installed in a VM to give it a spin.

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        • Originally posted by mtippett View Post
          Yikes. Do a modicum of research before making broad assertions...

          http://kernel.ubuntu.com/~kernel-ppa...ucid/BUILD.LOG

          Look at the details. Just a packaging and that's about it. It's the way that Canonical monitors upstream.

          You have the config, you have the commit hash. Where's the concern?
          Maybe I don't get it.

          On http://www.phoromatic.com/kernel-tracker.php
          it says
          Kernel: 2.6.33-999-generic (i686)
          On http://kernel.ubuntu.com/~kernel-ppa...ucid/BUILD.LOG
          it says

          full_version<2.6.34>
          version<2.6.34>
          long<v2.6.34-8406-g52b0ace>
          abinum<999>
          To me one says 2.6.34 and one says 2.6.33.

          I don't get it, yet.

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          • Originally posted by sabriah View Post
            Maybe I don't get it.

            On http://www.phoromatic.com/kernel-tracker.php
            it says 2.6.33
            Yes, that is the initial version that the device deployed with. Phoromatic should update that data to the most recent version reported.

            On http://kernel.ubuntu.com/~kernel-ppa...ucid/BUILD.LOG
            it says 2.6.34

            To me one says 2.6.34 and one says 2.6.33.

            I don't get it, yet.
            The issue wasn't about the version numbers, it was about the "It's an Ubuntu variant, so it's worthless". In reality it is an ubuntu packaging of a vanilla upstream. A couple of clicks and you can determine the commit hash.

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            • Originally posted by sabriah View Post
              Maybe I don't get it.

              On http://www.phoromatic.com/kernel-tracker.php
              it says


              On http://kernel.ubuntu.com/~kernel-ppa/mainline/daily/2010-05-30-lucid/BUILD.LOG
              it says



              To me one says 2.6.34 and one says 2.6.33.

              I don't get it, yet.
              The one on the kernel tracker page that says 2.6.33, note that it's the retired (dead) 32-bit Atom system that is no longer even used. Last Communication: 2010-03-04 06:59:58 Current Task: Offline
              Michael Larabel
              http://www.michaellarabel.com/

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              • Originally posted by Michael View Post
                The one on the kernel tracker page that says 2.6.33, note that it's the retired (dead) 32-bit Atom system that is no longer even used. Last Communication: 2010-03-04 06:59:58 Current Task: Offline
                Now that you mention it I'm initiated too!

                Thanks!

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                • Originally posted by Michael View Post
                  If more readers actually became Premium subscribers or did not use AdBlock, it might actually be possible
                  I just disabled adblock plus, but it's slow as hell with the ads
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                  • Originally posted by fhuberts View Post
                    OMG what drama

                    this is a .35-rc1 kernel for crying out loud!

                    beside that, the quality of articles here on phoronix has been nose diving for a while now. I'm even beginning to get annoyed.

                    Michael, you have to do better and you can because it was good in the beginning. Articles like this are total crap and do you and your site no service at all
                    +1

                    Such alarmist baloney over a beta regression. Worth an article, but the needy attention seeking titles recently are shameful.

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                    • Originally posted by stevea View Post
                      Worth an article, but the needy attention seeking titles recently are shameful.
                      Who cares? Everything with Linux, X, DRI, DRM, Gallium, DDX, and *gl in the title I read anyway

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                      • Originally posted by V!NCENT View Post
                        Who cares? Everything with Linux, X, DRI, DRM, Gallium, DDX, and *gl in the title I read anyway
                        Yeah - well - I'm not living in my parent's basement, got a life and I only have time to read the relevant stuff. Headlines worthy of the 'National Enquirer' make me discount Phoronix generally.

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                        • Originally posted by stevea View Post
                          Yeah - well - I'm not living in my parent's basement, got a life and I only have time to read the relevant stuff. Headlines worthy of the 'National Enquirer' make me discount Phoronix generally.
                          I am preparing to get a way from the upper floor basement. I have a live and a pretty respectably large group of friends (with 2-3 'core friends'). I also work about 34,5 hours per week (and having learned for my exams in the mean time) and so I have money for a MDA that runs Opera Mini and thus I am always online to read. 1/3 of your wake life is spend waiting, you know

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                          • Originally posted by V!NCENT View Post
                            I am preparing to get a way from the upper floor basement. I have a live and a pretty respectably large group of friends (with 2-3 'core friends'). I also work about 34,5 hours per week (and having learned for my exams in the mean time) and so I have money for a MDA that runs Opera Mini and thus I am always online to read. 1/3 of your wake life is spend waiting, you know

                            Sob - your life is sooo difficult !

                            I work double those hours, my wife has a disability that requires constant care, and I'm tech lead on a project that may mean success/failure for my (shakey) company.

                            I don't have time to spend 1/3rd of my hours waiting. Neither will you once you have some responsibilities.

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                            • so any sort of hint as to what was the problem or a link to a LKML discussion of it?

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                              • Originally posted by stevea View Post
                                Sob - your life is sooo difficult !
                                I wasn't claiming it. Just wanted to clarify that I am not a loser who sits in his basement 24/7 eating pizza all day at the age of 30 and doing nothing. For my age this is pretty much not low-life...

                                I work double those hours, my wife has a disability that requires constant care,
                                Respect for that! [you taking care of]

                                I don't have time to spend 1/3rd of my hours waiting. Neither will you once you have some responsibilities.
                                OK I wasn't expecting that your wife was having a disability. The avarage person has a little bit more spare time (unless you have dept by choice or no retirement savings)

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