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    Phoronix: Ubuntu's Live USB Disk Creator

    Ubuntu 8.10 is shipping next week with a horde of updated packages including the Linux 2.6.27 kernel, X.Org 7.4, Pidgin 2.5, GIMP 2.6, and many other packages that have experienced significant milestones since the April release of Ubuntu 8.04. On top of these updated packages from the community, Canonical has been working on a few desktop Linux innovations of their own. For instance, arriving late into the Intrepid Ibex release cycle is a USB start-up disk creator. In this article we are providing a quick look at this utility to easily spin your own USB disk images.

    http://www.phoronix.com/vr.php?view=13004

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    Is there a version in C? Is there a Qt frontend? Who did they steal it from?

    (did I cover everything?)

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    • #3
      It is not really hard to do that manually, btw. since the network-manager bug is solved you can even boot the live images again over network. All you need to do is to boot the kernel/initrd and it is possible to specify the position of the casper sub dir. Not fully customizeable like the more advanced debian live variant (live-initramfs is basically casper with extra options) but there is nothing special to boot from usb. Even Kanotix can be booted without problems from USB - one thing you really should have got is possibility to fix the grub hd to device mapping before install (to fix device.map) in order to install the grub loader to the correct postition. I highly doubt that U has that feature - Kanotix has - and allows not even Live mode from usb but even direct hd install in advanced mode.

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      • #4
        Where to get this tool?

        Can I get this tool for 8.04? I don't see any point in installing 8.10 in order to create an USB install medium for 8.10.

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        • #5
          To install any distro easily...

          ...use UNetbootin.

          You can install to a drive over USB or partition.

          But it's great there's another alternative for USB mem stick installer creator thingies. :P

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          • #6
            How much space does it take up on the USB drive? Would a 1 GB stick be enough for a 700 MB .iso?

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            • #7
              Originally posted by Yfrwlf View Post
              ...use UNetbootin...
              It would be good to see a cpmparison of the Canonical version versus others.

              I believe Fedora also has a similar thing too since a couple of versions ago, but I think it is only for Live USB's.

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              • #8
                What's to compare?

                They all do the same thing, perhaps this Ubuntu one adds a different boot option for the persistency.

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                • #9
                  openSUSE offers a nice little YaST module for creating USB installs and it allows custom package selection with the option to install to HD if desired from it.

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by deanjo View Post
                    openSUSE offers a nice little YaST module for creating USB installs and it allows custom package selection with the option to install to HD if desired from it.
                    UNetbootin offers a straight binary as well as Ubuntu and openSuse packages, so it's cross distro without requiring users to compile. Does the YaST one do that? Huh huh huh?

                    Oh, and did I mention UNetbootin can do any distro? Can the Ubuntu or Suse ones do any distro you want?

                    Oh snap. UNetbootin = 2. Others = ?

                    There's your comparison, bugmenot, though it's not much of one because as you can see, I only compared two categories, software accessibility and multi-distro boot creation, and I didn't even know the outcome for it.
                    Last edited by Yfrwlf; 10-24-2008, 06:06 PM.

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by Yfrwlf View Post
                      UNetbootin offers a straight binary as well as Ubuntu and openSuse packages, so it's cross distro without requiring users to compile. Does the YaST one do that? Huh huh huh?

                      Oh, and did I mention UNetbootin can do any distro? Can the Ubuntu or Suse ones do any distro you want?

                      Oh snap. UNetbootin = 2. Others = ?
                      If you want to write the profile for it, absolutely it can.

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by deanjo View Post
                        If you want to write the profile for it, absolutely it can.
                        Mhm well right now UNetbootin has several distros it already supports, and since the program you're referring to is a Yast module, you'd have to have Yast to run it, and is there an easy way to download and run Yast? Regardless, UNetbootin is a standalone program, so that may be easier for anyone to use.

                        But hey, the more competition the better.

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by Yfrwlf View Post
                          Mhm well right now UNetbootin has several distros it already supports, and since the program you're referring to is a Yast module, you'd have to have Yast to run it, and is there an easy way to download and run Yast? Regardless, UNetbootin is a standalone program, so that may be easier for anyone to use.

                          But hey, the more competition the better.
                          You don't need the yast module, it's just a gui for kiwi which is can be brought over and used without the yast gui. YaST as well is being ported to other distro's as well, latest effort being RHEL (some others as well I believe if IIRC when going through the opensuse build service). UNetbootin is nice, but does not have the same level of customizeation that Yast/Kiwi allow (users, package selection, preconfigs, other types of images such as VM's etc).

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by deanjo View Post
                            You don't need the yast module, it's just a gui for kiwi which is can be brought over and used without the yast gui. YaST as well is being ported to other distro's as well, latest effort being RHEL (some others as well I believe if IIRC when going through the opensuse build service). UNetbootin is nice, but does not have the same level of customizeation that Yast/Kiwi allow (users, package selection, preconfigs, other types of images such as VM's etc).
                            Being *ported*? Wow, I didn't know some Linux programs were so ingrained into specific distros that they had to be ported. The proprietization of Linux is a very sad thing indeed, and I hope everyone will be very wary of helping out with any programs unless they have freedom, accessibility, and modularity as their core principals so their work won't go to waste.

                            So *Kiwi* at least is a standalone program that can be used on all Linuxes right now, that's good. You have the link to a binary we can all download and run by any chance, or even the source code? Because, right now I can't find anything on Google or Sourceforge or anything about this program. If I can't even download it then as far as actually using the thing, I'd have to give UNetbootin *my* editor's choice, but hopefully you can help me find the link, that would be really nice of you. ^^

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                            • #15
                              http://kiwi.berlios.de/

                              http://svn.berlios.de/wsvn/kiwi/kiwi...ile&rev=0&sc=0

                              YaST does have a bit of porting to be done fore use on other distro's as they do not all use the same packagemangers, etc.

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