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  • #16
    Originally posted by Fixxer_Linux View Post
    Am I the only non-developper-end-user wanting to run Gentoo ???
    Nope I tun it too. Best distro ever. Tried ubuntu, FC, and slackware. Though I do think ubuntu is a pretty close second.

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    • #17
      Originally posted by colo View Post
      The LiveCD is largely irrelevant since the advent of Knoppix and workalikes, but I do look forward to new stage tarballs.

      Gentoo is just the very bestest thing since sliced bread Check out http://paludis.pioto.org/ while you are at it!
      paludis is great when you have installed a lot of overlays as i do but it has the lack of portage's buildpkg option which is a great flaw. for the rest is quite great. also it has a bunch of hooks that make it even better. also reconcilio is much more faster than revdep-rebuild.

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      • #18
        Originally posted by georgia_tech_swagger View Post
        There is a performance difference. Gentoo is noticeably faster. However, that's not really a function of compiling everything optimized for your hardware. While that does increase speed, it's not by an appreciable margin. The real boost comes from:
        - Absolute zero bloat. You have ONLY what you need. No extraneous services or bloaty apps in the background.
        - (Assuming you didn't use genkernel) a kernel compiled just for your machine. That means no hundreds and hundreds of extra crap compiled into the kernel or hanging around as modules. This is probably where the largest performance gain is had.

        My laptop is a Thinkpad T21 (PIII 800 Mhz, 256 MB SDRAM). Ubuntu is unbearably slow on it (partially Gnome's fault, I know). Gentoo+KDE however is nice and responsive, even with all the bells and whistles enabled short of Compiz Fusion. I will say that I'm somewhat cheating, in that with Gentoo I'm running virtually zero GTK apps. Even Firefox and its extreme memory hunger were dumped for QT based Opera. I have a theory regarding GTK based apps and their propensity to (IMHO) suck and be slow.
        well, as for me i think that qt4 rocks and gtk really sucks. i only have firefox as some of its plugins are irreplaceable by other browsers, but opera is really really fast. also the new konqueror is something awesome, but it has a not so good extension handler as has firefox. also the problem with web browsing is the absence of a flash player for 64bit which makes me angry.... damn, it's a lot of time that amd64 is out there and now every new pc goes with amd64 but still no real alternative to the 32 bit flash player. this sucks.
        if you're a kde use i'd suggest you to try out building qt with qt-copy use flag and then rebuild kdelibs (search on the forums for qt-copy and you'll find out the ebuilds to do this). the amount of ram gained is about 20%. also i'd suggest thex11 overlay and from there i'd suggest the protos (except xcb that breakes the system since there was an api change with xlib and the apps aren't really patched for it) and the git mesa, cairo, glitz. the font antialiasing is really great with them. also i's suggest the live ebuild of x264 from berkano overlay and ffmpeg from flameeyes overlay. these are great multimedia ebuilds and i found out the multimedia system to be better with them installed.

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        • #19
          Originally posted by immudium View Post
          There are two things that I think Gentoo has a bad reputation for.

          1. I don't think the compile process on Gentoo is quite as big a deal as most think it is. Sure some of the bigger applications like Firefox or MythTV will take a few extra minutes to compile vs just installing. But for the smaller libraries and packages that make up the majority of a system, I find that compiling the updates from source as part of a regularly weekly update process takes up no more time than updating Ubuntu or Arch for the most part. And Portage runs quite nicely in the background. You can kick off a big update and just go about your regular work and you'll never notice anything different. You can even create a distributed compile system using spare machines on your LAN with distcc which is a lot of fun if you're into that.
          Hmm, yeah, I suppose I should give it another shot. As I said, when I tried Gentoo, I really really liked it. Probably my favorite distribution except for some reason things were taking a very long time to compile. I'll try messing around with it tonight and check my compile flags.

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          • #20
            Originally posted by colo View Post
            The LiveCD is largely irrelevant since the advent of Knoppix and workalikes, but I do look forward to new stage tarballs.
            You should check out Daniel Robbins' website at funtoo.org. He (the founder of Gentoo) is providing up-to-date stage tarballs at http://www.funtoo.org/linux. Sure saved me a lot of time last time I had to install Gentoo.

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            • #21
              Originally posted by cfackler View Post
              You should check out Daniel Robbins' website at funtoo.org. He (the founder of Gentoo) is providing up-to-date stage tarballs at http://www.funtoo.org/linux. Sure saved me a lot of time last time I had to install Gentoo.
              i was already aware of this thing but it would be nice if this could be done by gentoo itself. or at lest via a symlink to these new tarballs.

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