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    Phoronix: The Latest Distro Trying For Commercial Success Uses Arch & Wayland

    A new Linux distribution under development is among the latest dreaming of commercial success in hopes of finally conquering the Linux desktop and having their OS pre-installed on systems being sold in brick and mortar stores...

    http://www.phoronix.com/vr.php?view=MTczNTA

  • #2
    just.... WHY?!
    the name sucks, mate with a windows like menu really? and arch?
    this al FAIL written all over it...

    Also why should we fount his new DE when we cant trow money at current DE's and make them better instead???

    WDIt just one more thing before i faceplam my head of...

    "Tired of Major and Unneccessary Changes To Your Operating System?
    The Answer: Operating System U"

    WITH ARCH??????
    Last edited by TheSoulz; 07-05-2014, 08:30 AM.

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    • #3
      Not sure if I'm suposed to laugh or cry.

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      • #4
        Arch + Wayland + MATE sounds good.
        I would pay for a Linux distribution that can compete with Windows.

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        • #5
          Originally posted by TheSoulz View Post
          "Tired of Major and Unneccessary Changes To Your Operating System?
          The Answer: Operating System U"

          WITH ARCH??????
          I laughed . A surprising choice indeed.

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          • #6
            Massive respect to Michael for not ending the article with a giant "LOL".

            Yeah, no need to comment on this one.

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            • #7
              While I personally find Arch overall more user friendly in a maintenance perspective than most distros, I'd say it's harder than average as a whole. Regardless, these people have seriously unrealistic goals who have been using linux too long to not understand the stupidity of the average user.

              Canonical meanwhile has invested millions and employing hundreds of developers and still hasn't completely cracked the Linux desktop.
              That may be true, but to be fair, they made a lot of moves that people weren't happy with. Canonical acted like they were the authority over the linux community and they did things that hardware vendors find difficult to work with. Their end products are, from what I hear, pretty good for newcomers (who at least give it a shot). But, people hate change - if Canonical really wants to attract new users, they're either going to have to have an experience that closely resembles Windows or they're going to have to run ANY Windows program they want, both of which are incredibly stupid things but that's how you attract the herd. But, the problem is if something LOOKS like windows but doesn't run Windows programs, that changes people's expectations and therefore causes disappointment. This is why Windows RT failed - it looked like Windows, it was called Windows, but it couldn't run x86 programs. So in this perspective, an unfamiliar interface is the best thing to do. It's just a matter of how you prioritize familiarity.
              Last edited by schmidtbag; 07-05-2014, 09:42 AM.

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              • #8
                Their naming sense sucks, and as such they will never, ever get that commercial success unless they rename it (there a lot of good names out there, Zorin OS for example, whoever thought of that had a great naming sense!)

                I'm all for their choice of Arch + Wayland + MATE, but I personally think they would be a lot better off going with Arch + Wayland + Enlightenment, then modifying enlightenment a lot (fork it) why? because with enlightenment they can set up a default theme, but it is extremely themable either way so it is easy to offer out of the box user friendliness with it, a really sleek look and unlimited customization possibilities for those who don't like the default. But Mint most certainly would have been choice #2 in my book.

                Still, I have little hope for this project succeeding, especially when HP has a new open source OS just around the corner that is much more likely to come served pre-installed on machines than any linux distribution (as it is sponsored by a colossal company, i.e. hp)

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                • #9
                  Funny

                  Did someone else notice their "CEO" is 17 years old.

                  You can check out his hilarious bio on their website - http://www.operatingsystemu.com/#!an...rnstein-/c17v3

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by Michael
                    Operating System U is to be based off Arch Linux, run a modified version of the MATE Desktop Environment, and will use Wayland in place of the X.Org Server. Operating System U also plans to modify the MATE Desktop to make it better while also developing a new component they call Startlight, which pairs the Windows Start Button with Apple's Spotlight.
                    Right. And suddenly, MATE (and GTK2) supports Wayland by magic.

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                    • #11
                      It will be very hard for a linux distro that is taylored for end users to achieve comercial success while staying true to the foss ethos. It can be done, though. Naturally, you'd need all of the things any entreprenurial venture would need, but you would need one thing that most people have not done while staying true to the open source ethos. The missing element is unfortunately open source and DRM free crapware and similar things. It would allow the company to make money with each download (or similar metric) and offer lower prices on devices sold with it preinstalled. That's how Windows dominates. Since as we all know, the core linux users are tech people of various sorts who would be angered by it. I don't know how anyone could get around it, other than adding a way to easily remove all of the crapware once it is installed. Honestly though, considering how much people freaked out when Mozilla considered using ads, I doubt current linux users would go for any such thing. Also, what firm would make open source and DRM free crapware?

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                      • #12
                        This is actually a joke. It's gotta be.

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by schmidtbag View Post
                          While I personally find Arch overall more user friendly in a maintenance perspective than most distros, I'd say it's harder than average as a whole. Regardless, these people have seriously unrealistic goals who have been using linux too long to not understand the stupidity of the average user.


                          That may be true, but to be fair, they made a lot of moves that people weren't happy with. Canonical acted like they were the authority over the linux community and they did things that hardware vendors find difficult to work with. Their end products are, from what I hear, pretty good for newcomers (who at least give it a shot). But, people hate change - if Canonical really wants to attract new users, they're either going to have to have an experience that closely resembles Windows or they're going to have to run ANY Windows program they want, both of which are incredibly stupid things but that's how you attract the herd. But, the problem is if something LOOKS like windows but doesn't run Windows programs, that changes people's expectations and therefore causes disappointment. This is why Windows RT failed - it looked like Windows, it was called Windows, but it couldn't run x86 programs. So in this perspective, an unfamiliar interface is the best thing to do. It's just a matter of how you prioritize familiarity.
                          People dont want another windows, thats a myth...
                          people want something pretty, easy, and stable.
                          if people wanted something like windows why do they desire OSX?
                          OSX is nothing like windows.

                          In my personal opinion linux on the desktop dosent evolve beacuse of the community wars and the stallman free crap.
                          dont get me wrong i admire stallman for hes work, but for non-geeks they dont give a crap about the free (has in freedoom) as long as it does not affect theyr stuff.
                          The current linux comunity barely or does not tolerate DRM at all, and this is bad becuase companies want it....
                          Like how people hate canonical for using the dash online thingy, look at other OS's now. All of them use it, win8 and even OSX with the recent update.

                          There needs to be a balance bettwen free and "usable".

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by TheSoulz View Post
                            The current linux comunity barely or does not tolerate DRM at all, and this is bad becuase companies want it....
                            What the actual fuck?

                            If you want an OS that panders to corporate interests and sells out its users while doing it, why not just use Windows? What good is it to have a popular Linux Desktop OS if it turns out to be just as shitty as windows? Just to be able to say "look, Linux is popular now"? Pointless...

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                            • #15
                              It's nothing about Linux. A young guy instead of going to a boring job decides to open his own company/shop and sell electronics, computers. In this case he creates his own brand in a form of a Linux distribution name. Kickstarter will provide him money to start the company without mortgages and stuff like that. Plus free advertisement From a economic/financial point of view this is quite good plan and often brings good result in crowdfunding. Some money will go to develop the look and feel of the system (to get consistent brand identity), but overall he is just "starting a new company in the new world of web 2.0+"

                              Arch and Wayland is there probably because it was picked by a Linux geek Old guy in a limo would probably pick Centos/RHEL... or Oracle Unbreakable Linux. Average user Ubuntu... If they will advertise something with Raspberry Pi (and optionally with the addition of Banana Pi) on the crowd funding they may get few times as much (even though no consumer would want a Macbook looking laptop with stone age CPU, brand fanatics would do the job... )

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