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    Phoronix: Linux Mint Is Sticking To Ubuntu LTS Releases

    The popular Linux Mint distribution has officially announced today that they will stick to using Ubuntu LTS releases as the bases of their operating system...

    http://www.phoronix.com/vr.php?view=MTY5MDM

  • #2
    So they will bring Cinamon to Ubuntu? Also they've settled with Ubuntu about the repos? They should indeed use their own repos to take pressure away from Ubuntu.

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    • #3
      Originally posted by mike4 View Post
      So they will bring Cinamon to Ubuntu? Also they've settled with Ubuntu about the repos? They should indeed use their own repos to take pressure away from Ubuntu.
      i believe the servers are the same for all distributions. Example http://mirror.fcaglp.unlp.edu.ar/ this server host 4 distributions packages. There are no especific Ubuntu servers...

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      • #4
        Originally posted by mike4 View Post
        So they will bring Cinamon to Ubuntu? Also they've settled with Ubuntu about the repos? They should indeed use their own repos to take pressure away from Ubuntu.
        there are no Ubuntu servers, there are shared servers example
        mirror fcaglp unlp edu ar

        debian.c3sl.ufpr br
        ubuntu.c3sl.ufpr br
        archlinux.c3sl.ufpr br
        Last edited by philipmorris; 05-14-2014, 10:39 AM.

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        • #5
          Originally posted by phoronix View Post
          In total there will be three Linux Mint releases built upon the Ubuntu 14.04 "Trusty Tahr" packages with sticking to a six-month release cadence.
          I would think four, not three, unless they are going to skip a release, but I saw no mention of that in Clem's post.

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          • #6
            Great, now Mint is going to be out of date nearly to the point of being useless.

            What distro to I recommend to newbies now?

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            • #7
              Have a look here:
              http://distrowatch.com/

              Personally I don't trust small distros much, hence you might use:
              http://sourceforge.net/projects/leopardflower/

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              • #8
                Originally posted by Scimmia View Post
                Great, now Mint is going to be out of date nearly to the point of being useless.

                What distro to I recommend to newbies now?
                Kubuntu, Lubuntu, Xubuntu and Ubuntu GNOME welcome you arms opened.

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                • #9
                  What about their Debian version?

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by Scimmia View Post
                    Great, now Mint is going to be out of date nearly to the point of being useless.

                    What distro to I recommend to newbies now?
                    Ubuntu's, LTS's get full back ports from there Development releases, so you don't have to worry about it getting dated any more.

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by Scimmia View Post
                      Great, now Mint is going to be out of date nearly to the point of being useless.

                      What distro to I recommend to newbies now?
                      It is better if newbies use stable versions of linux. They don't want bleeding edge softwares which is going to be broken at some point. As browsers are getting updated is is enough. Also I think they will also update kernel and Xorg(like LTS point release).

                      And if they really want a piece of softwares updated version, I think adding a ppa is not that hard.

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                      • #12
                        Probably I'll hang with this latest LTS thanks to the new policies of updating some other software appart from the kernel.
                        And adding PPA's shouldn't be a problem, I'm already doing it with some software packages.

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by Scimmia View Post
                          Great, now Mint is going to be out of date nearly to the point of being useless.

                          What distro to I recommend to newbies now?
                          Manjaro you arch fanboy

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                          • #14
                            Mint may have had little choice with the Mir situation

                            Mint is in an ugly position due to the rapid changes coming in the underlying stack. I had been wondering what they were going to do about the Mir/Wayland situation, and now there is the systemd transition as well.

                            OK, I have just established in my own machines that Cinnamon and Nemo work just fine over Systemd, which is no surprise because they don't use the init system. Wayland/Mir is entirely another story, and neither MATE nor Cinnamon has been ported to either one. Cinnamon's team should be able to look at the patches used by GNOME to use Wayland, but will have to either backport them to a very old verson of gnome-shell or else port the patches that turn gnome-shell into Cinnamon to a far newer version of gnome-shell. Mate might be easier: port it to GTK 3 and a lot of the job is done, as the window manager is not integrated into the taskbar or the menus. Port it to GTK3 and run it over Weston or another Wayland window manager.

                            Mint's decision to stick to LTS releases gives them 2 years to deal with this, and lets them avoid hurried work. By the time Ubuntu 15.10 comes out, a lot of the upstream work should be either done, scrapped, or delayed past 16.04, giving Mint a stable target to shoot at.

                            A bigger problem may or may not exist for those of us running Cinnamon in Ubuntu from PPA, and following either rolling releases or the alpha releases (as I do). The questions will be how long does X stay in repo or in the xorg-edgers PPA, and will Cinnamon build against newer versions of Ubuntu all the way through. In a real pinch, I suppose Cinnamon and all its libraries could be made into a "zero install" local folder package like the meltytech git builds of kdenlive. These usually work for top level apps on a whole cycle from one LTS to the next and sometimes more. This would work so long as Xorg remains installable, or locally installable. Would be an interesting use of the new "clickinstall" system to be sure-a whole DE installed locally or maybe in /usr/local.

                            It will be interesting to see what happens in Cinnamon PPA's, enough has been forked that it should work so long as clutter works with it and X is available. Also, any ports to Wayland would show up here, I would guess during the 16.04 alpha runup,

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by Scimmia View Post
                              Great, now Mint is going to be out of date nearly to the point of being useless.

                              What distro to I recommend to newbies now?
                              Linux Mint.

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