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  • #16
    Originally posted by TheBlackCat View Post
    its success
    By the way:

    In 2014:
    KDE wins Linux New Media Readers Choice Award 2014
    http://dot.kde.org/2014/03/18/kde-wi...ice-award-2014
    Last week at CeBIT, KDE won the [Linux New Media Readers Choice Award 2014](http://www.linux-magazin.de/NEWS/Ceb...ewinnen-Preise) for the best Linux Desktop Environment. 46% of the readers of Linux New Media's global publications voted for KDE. Runner-ups were GNOME with 18% and XFCE with 13%. [...]

    In 2013:
    KDE easily takes top spot this year
    http://www.linuxjournal.com/rc2013?page=8

    In 2012:
    KDE's top spot
    http://www.linuxjournal.com/slidesho...ce-2012?page=3

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    • #17
      Originally posted by ferry View Post
      the task switch (Alt-Tab) in win7 is still win98 like (pictograms), compare that to KDE flipswitch or cover switch
      Try Windows+Tab instead of Alt+Tab on Windows 7

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      • #18
        Originally posted by TheBlackCat View Post
        It can't possibly be that Debian has a version of KDE that is several years out of date, or that Debian is not known as being KDE-centric.
        Debian might not be desktop centric but it still makes a nice desktop distrbution.
        The "several years out of date" is only true during longer than expected freezes for a Debian stable release.
        Can't speak for GNOME or other desktop products, but right now the difference is just one minor release number, making it about four months old in KDE's current release scheme.

        Cheers,
        _

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        • #19
          Originally posted by phill1978 View Post
          I think half the problem is, less people are interested in KDE in general these days. All KDE distributions struggle to look and feel any different. There is always this big boned look almost late 1990's feel, that even with font changes, theme changes, icon changes it still looks 'big and flouncy'

          Its actually quite a chore to get KDE looking minimal like openbox or xfce yet with all the compositing and effects and it still never looks the same always feeling wooly and lower definition. Cinnamon is more exciting even though its less stable and much less recoverable, at least you can get some modern crisp UI going and not feel like your trapped in some windows 98 desktop with a 3rd party effects application installed.
          I often find that when all people have to offer to a discussion of software is to criticize how it looks and how "exciting" it is or isn't defines how serious of a Linux users a person isn't. As much as I (like anyone) enjoy a nice looking desktop, that's not what sells me on its usefulness. Believe it or not, there are people who use Linux for serious work and don't nitpick every visual detail then reboot into Windows because Linux is only good for pretty screenshots, right?

          I digress. Like all distros, Debian has its purpose and the people who use it don't often complain about it being slightly older. For me and others who use Linux and only Linux I care more about how stable and secure it is. If it looks nice, that's a bonus and not an absolute requirement.

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          • #20
            Originally posted by jmcknight View Post
            I often find that when all people have to offer to a discussion of software is to criticize how it looks and how "exciting" it is or isn't defines how serious of a Linux users a person isn't. As much as I (like anyone) enjoy a nice looking desktop, that's not what sells me on its usefulness. Believe it or not, there are people who use Linux for serious work and don't nitpick every visual detail then reboot into Windows because Linux is only good for pretty screenshots, right?

            I digress. Like all distros, Debian has its purpose and the people who use it don't often complain about it being slightly older. For me and others who use Linux and only Linux I care more about how stable and secure it is. If it looks nice, that's a bonus and not an absolute requirement.
            I take your point but i find KDE works slower because it is visually cluttered. Not to mention waiting for an effect to finish or dolphin to pop up is slower.

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            • #21
              Originally posted by phill1978 View Post
              I take your point but i find KDE works slower because it is visually cluttered. Not to mention waiting for an effect to finish or dolphin to pop up is slower.
              When you look at what KDE ultimately is versuse its alternatives/competitors, you can't expect miracles out of it. People who use KDE don't use it because of how lightweight and super snappy it is. People use it because they're looking for an all encompassing, full featured desktop instead of the alternatives. The alternatives being GNOME 3 which falls under a similar use case just without any sense of usability for serious work. There's Cinnamon which is fine if you don't mind getting into that fractured desktop feeling.

              Personally, I use KDE (and I'm new to it, even) because outside of personal use where I could basically use anything, I mostly use Linux for work. I can't be bothered to fight GNOME, have to babysit and cherry pick software under XFCE (same with Cinnamon in this argument), or deal with something like Openbox. I need and warrant something more akin to a work environment and for me, KDE does this with flying colours.

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