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    Phoronix: Ubuntu 14.10 Is Codenamed The Utopic Unicorn

    Mark Shuttleworth has finally revealed the Ubuntu 14.10 codename and other details about this next Ubuntu Linux release...

    http://www.phoronix.com/vr.php?view=MTY3MTM

  • #2
    Elementary OS, here I come... at least I'll give it a spin when the Isis version is closer to being ready.

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    • #3
      Funny to hear him talk about unification when Ubuntu is all about fragmentation nowadays.

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      • #4
        grumble grumble shit post that is off topic

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        • #5
          And here I was hoping for Underhanded Undead.

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          • #6
            Originally posted by M1kkko View Post
            Elementary OS, here I come... at least I'll give it a spin when the Isis version is closer to being ready.
            Nothing against Elementary OS, but why would an upcoming release be a reason to switch? I mean, Ubuntu 14.04 LTS is running great and if they fuck up 14.10, because Unity8/Mir is still too unstable or whatever, then who cares? Ubuntu 14.04 LTS will still run great in years to come.

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            • #7
              yes

              Originally posted by d2kx View Post
              Nothing against Elementary OS, but why would an upcoming release be a reason to switch? I mean, Ubuntu 14.04 LTS is running great and if they fuck up 14.10, because Unity8/Mir is still too unstable or whatever, then who cares? Ubuntu 14.04 LTS will still run great in years to come.
              is the point of lts over normal. the .10 are always a pain in ass like 10.10 and 12.10, a lot of new features without stability

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              • #8
                Not a real animal this time? Utopic? That doesn't sound like they're confident in it at all.

                Hmm, so 16.04 that they are aiming all their new things for is going to be what, the Xylophonic Xiphophorus?

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by d2kx View Post
                  Nothing against Elementary OS, but why would an upcoming release be a reason to switch? I mean, Ubuntu 14.04 LTS is running great and if they fuck up 14.10, because Unity8/Mir is still too unstable or whatever, then who cares? Ubuntu 14.04 LTS will still run great in years to come.
                  You're right. Ubuntu is pretty much the only linux operating system I've used on a desktop so far, and I'll most likely stick with 14.04 for quite some time.

                  But seeing that Ubuntu has now really started going to a direction of their own (that not many are pleased with), focusing on mobile, introducing mir and their own package manager, core apps for pretty much everything etc, I'm not sure if I want to "upgrade" to future versions of it anymore. And so Elementary OS Isis is becoming a more compelling alternative day by day.

                  That said, I've yet to try it out. If someone knows a "better" linux desktop/distribution alternative to Ubuntu(Unity), please let me know.

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by M1kkko View Post
                    But seeing that Ubuntu has now really started going to a direction of their own (that not many are pleased with)
                    And I'm sure you have numbers to back up your anecdotal evidence? Or maybe you think "vocal minority on the internet" equals "many people"?

                    Ubuntu is going in an exciting direction. Unification is not about being pals to the boring developments of the majority. For those who can read, the unification pedantic Shuttleworth talks about is the holy grail even Microsoft can't seem to achieve: a single codebase for both the OS and apps spanning every electronic information device, from phones to TVs and the Internet of Things. Hardcore users who despise this effort can live happily with their Debian or Fedora or whatever other distro they wish. What they don't need to do is posting again and again how unhappy they are with Canonicals decisions. It's not like Canonical forces anyone to use or implement their ideas.

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by Aleve Sicofante View Post
                      And I'm sure you have numbers to back up your anecdotal evidence? Or maybe you think "vocal minority on the internet" equals "many people"?

                      Ubuntu is going in an exciting direction. Unification is not about being pals to the boring developments of the majority. For those who can read, the unification pedantic Shuttleworth talks about is the holy grail even Microsoft can't seem to achieve: a single codebase for both the OS and apps spanning every electronic information device, from phones to TVs and the Internet of Things. Hardcore users who despise this effort can live happily with their Debian or Fedora or whatever other distro they wish. What they don't need to do is posting again and again how unhappy they are with Canonicals decisions. It's not like Canonical forces anyone to use or implement their ideas.
                      To be honest, at first I was about to say something like "they're going to a really horrible direction" but I correctly guessed that there would be someone defending Canonical. And I'm not saying you're wrong, either.

                      But there still are many, well, some, people who don't like to use a "mobile phone / desktop computer -hybrid OS" on both their desktop and phone, but actually want those to be two separate experiences, one that is designed for a phone and one that is designed for a desktop. (The OS kernel and internals can be the same, but the UI should be different because the input device, size of display and use cases are inherently different) And do I really want the same thing also on a TV that usually lacks a mouse and surely doesn't have a touch screen?

                      There are also other problems with Canonical. They seem to be overly enthusiastic in developing everything of their own, yet they lack the required manpower and end up either releasing poor quality software (look at the unity desktop for the first few ubuntu releases starting from 11.04) or copying from others (look at mir/xmir). Also they are lead by a visionary that lacks vision and changes the project's direction every four weeks. Look at them praising these "windicators" in 2010 or wayland or the "me menu" or the "power cog" (why is that thing still around?!? I wonder if the phone version will have it?) and it becomes apparent that no matter how much I want them to be these glorious visionaries that will save the Linux desktop, they're in fact some lunatics that have little to no idea what they're doing. And now they're taking it too far.

                      All in all, Ubuntu on the desktop seems to be a sinking ship. But that's just my assessment of the situation. Beware. Feel free to get excited all you want.

                      I didn't say that the majority of users think in a certain way. But I know what I think well enough. And I believe (without any numbers or evidence to back me up) that I'm not the only one.

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by Aleve Sicofante View Post
                        And I'm sure you have numbers to back up your anecdotal evidence?
                        Do you have numbers to prove otherwise?

                        Man, ubuntu fanboys are becoming more rabid and defensive by the day... It's like Apple all over again.

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by dee. View Post
                          Do you have numbers to prove otherwise?
                          The burden of the proof is not on me, smartguy.

                          I'm not an Ubuntu fanboy. What's become definitely tiresome is this constant anti-Canonical posturing all over geeky sites. You aren't forced to use Ubuntu. Did you ever realize that?

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by M1kkko View Post
                            But there still are many, well, some, people who don't like to use a "mobile phone / desktop computer -hybrid OS" on both their desktop and phone
                            Oh really? How many unified operating systems have you ever tried? Wait, there's none out there...

                            There are also other problems with Canonical. They seem to be overly enthusiastic in developing everything of their own, yet they lack the required manpower and end up either releasing poor quality software (look at the unity desktop for the first few ubuntu releases starting from 11.04) or copying from others (look at mir/xmir). Also they are lead by a visionary that lacks vision and changes the project's direction every four weeks. Look at them praising these "windicators" in 2010 or wayland or the "me menu" or the "power cog" (why is that thing still around?!? I wonder if the phone version will have it?) and it becomes apparent that no matter how much I want them to be these glorious visionaries that will save the Linux desktop, they're in fact some lunatics that have little to no idea what they're doing. And now they're taking it too far.
                            Don't be such an hipocrite. You don't want them to save the Linux desktop, you desperately want them to fail. I just don't understand why or how they even existing makes you feel uncomfortable. You don't like them? Ignore them. The question is: why the hell do you attack them???

                            All in all, Ubuntu on the desktop seems to be a sinking ship. But that's just my assessment of the situation. Beware. Feel free to get excited all you want.
                            Thanks God no one at Canonical cares about "your assessment". Pfew...

                            I didn't say that the majority of users think in a certain way. But I know what I think well enough. And I believe (without any numbers or evidence to back me up) that I'm not the only one.
                            There's religious freedom so you can "believe" whatever you please. I just wonder why you waste your time "believing" things about a project you despise so much. It doesn't cease to amaze me.

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                            • #15
                              The burden of the proof is not on me, smartguy.
                              You fail at logic, oh brave Internet Warrior.

                              The positive claim made by the other party was (paraphrased) "many people dislike the direction of Canonical". This is a claim that is demonstrably true: even on this forum, there are many people who dislike the direction of Canonical. Boom, statement validated.

                              You asked for numerical evidence to support a specific claim, when no specific claim was made.

                              Originally posted by Aleve Sicofante View Post
                              Oh really? How many unified operating systems have you ever tried? Wait, there's none out there...
                              Ok. How many toaster ovens that work by shoving a huge black dildo up your ass and jumping up and down have you tried? Oh, there's none out there? Well, in that case you can't prove that they're a bad idea... so obviously they're going to be a huge success and everyone is going to want one. In fact, I can just hear the footsteps of all the millions of people running to dump their old electric toaster ovens and start demanding for these new assrape-powered ovens. Because logic!

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