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    Phoronix: No License Needed For Kubuntu Derivatives

    After it came out some months ago that Canonical was trying to charge Linux Mint for its usage of Ubuntu as a base for the Linux distribution, the lead Kubuntu developer has made it clear that anyone is free to base off their KDE-focused Ubuntu distribution without fear of being charged...

    http://www.phoronix.com/vr.php?view=MTYwNDM

  • #2
    Hmm, would that force Canonical to also ask Kubuntu to sign a license agreement now? If not, then Linux Mint Kubuntu Edition?

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    • #3
      I didn't know such a license was even in use. Just lowers my expectations and views of Canonical even further.

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      • #4
        I also didn't knew about them and Linux Mint...that really makes my opinion about Ubuntu goes down the toillet....

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        • #5
          Originally posted by computerquip View Post
          I didn't know such a license was even in use. Just lowers my expectations and views of Canonical even further.
          And that Canonical licenses their trademarks for free to Kubuntu lowers your expectations why exactly?

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          • #6
            yep... i will abandon unity!
            its sad, i really like global menu!

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            • #7
              money!

              money is everething in the world, look red hat and centOS

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              • #8
                Originally posted by Vim_User View Post
                And that Canonical licenses their trademarks for free to Kubuntu lowers your expectations why exactly?
                This isn't about trademark licensing, it is about binary licensing. Ubuntu is arguing that, although the source is under an open license, the compiled binaries are not.

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by amagnoni View Post
                  yep... i will abandon unity!
                  its sad, i really like global menu!
                  Me too, and I also like the HUD brought up by the Alt key too. They should have just taken Wayland Minor fragmentations aren't problems, but when the display servers cause fragmentation, uh... oh... Unless they can turn Mir into Wayland.

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by computerquip View Post
                    I didn't know such a license was even in use. Just lowers my expectations and views of Canonical even further.
                    Same here. Unless they pay Debian, it's a real scumbag move how they mooch of debian but they charge others. To be fair though, (IIRC) Mint does use Ubuntu's servers, whereas Ubuntu doesn't use Debian's servers. On the other hand, considering Mint is gaining more popularity than Ubuntu, it is fair that Canonical doesn't want to be paying so much for someone else's distro.

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by schmidtbag View Post
                      Same here. Unless they pay Debian, it's a real scumbag move how they mooch of debian but they charge others. To be fair though, (IIRC) Mint does use Ubuntu's servers, whereas Ubuntu doesn't use Debian's servers. On the other hand, considering Mint is gaining more popularity than Ubuntu, it is fair that Canonical doesn't want to be paying so much for someone else's distro.
                      Except Ubuntu doesn't pay for most of their servers, either. The community provides them with free mirrors.

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by schmidtbag View Post
                        Same here. Unless they pay Debian, it's a real scumbag move how they mooch of debian but they charge others. To be fair though, (IIRC) Mint does use Ubuntu's servers, whereas Ubuntu doesn't use Debian's servers. On the other hand, considering Mint is gaining more popularity than Ubuntu, it is fair that Canonical doesn't want to be paying so much for someone else's distro.
                        Last I checked, they're not charging anyone. Canonical's license says that Mint is forbidden from striking OEM deals (so Mint can't be shipped on new devices by default). And yea, as mentioned, Mint doesn't necessarily use Canonical's servers, they use third party mirrors.

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by busukxuan View Post
                          Me too, and I also like the HUD brought up by the Alt key too. They should have just taken Wayland Minor fragmentations aren't problems, but when the display servers cause fragmentation, uh... oh... Unless they can turn Mir into Wayland.
                          i think wayland and mir is a minor problem! they are almost the same! drivers will need to support the same features!

                          but canonical forcing licenses, its horrible!
                          some people are trying to skip even the gpl, besides protecting developers. forcing to contribute in a corporate world its not a good thing!
                          google are trying to force corporates to contributes with source playing with the same cards! patents...

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                          • #14
                            I don't understand. How can Canonical charge for Ubuntu when Ubuntu itself is based on something else? What exactly are they trying to charge for?

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                            • #15
                              I, too, have been less enthused about various practices of Canonical. I have attempted to try many different distros again after some years of happily using Ubuntu... but they were all underwhelming. Not because of the stability, I loved using Debian stable again. Arch is also somewhat enjoyable. However, I really have grown to love Unity. I know many people hate it but it's surprisingly efficient for me. It's very keyboard-centric and is MINIMAL. It gets out of my way. I spent a lot of time with gnome-shell and hated how ****ing HUGE everything is. Despite my best efforts, my screen real-estate was just miserably small. With unity I have the top panel taking up a few pixels and the rest is all mine. I've experimented with using cinnamon + dock with custom keybindings with xbindkeys and wmcontrol... but it's just a hacky workaround. I like being able to switch quickly with <super>+(1-9).

                              So, in essence, how does one get those lovely <super>+(1,9) shortcuts and huge space savings? Closest I've come is a gnome shell extension that barely functions correctly, but even then I'm stuck with actually using the unusable. Unity-for-arch is interesting but ultimately lacking.

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