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    Phoronix: Systemd Is The Future Of Debian

    Since this weekend we have known that systemd was winning the Debian init system battle, but now it's official: systemd has prevailed over Upstart in Debian...

    http://www.phoronix.com/vr.php?view=MTYwMDQ

  • #2
    Nooooooooooooooo.........

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    • #3
      Well...

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      • #4
        I'm hearing a sound.

        The sound of Marc screaming from the inside.

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        • #5
          Great news! OTOH a lot of popcorn companies will go bankrupt in the near future.

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          • #6
            Originally posted by gufide View Post
            I'm hearing a sound.

            The sound of Marc screaming from the inside.
            Tables will be flipped.

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            • #7
              poor Ubuntu

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              • #8
                Next time: OpenRC is the future of Ubuntu.

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                • #9
                  I believe this was the best decision for Debian, at least on immediate technical merits.
                  I've used both upstart and systemd for several years (on Ubuntu/Mint and Arch respectively), and systemd is far more user-friendly, consistent and reliable, not to mention the ridiculous improvement in boot times.

                  OTOH, systemd's engulfing of various semi-related projects and their active opposition to these components being used by other initsystems (udev, logind, whatever else isn't conceptually tied to one init) is a bit worrying; as a non-Debian-user I'd have appreciated them putting a load of work into maintaining an alternative.

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                  • #10
                    Am I the only one who honestly didn't care either way?

                    I like both Upstart and Systemd... I've learned to use both and both do just fine...

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by mcirsta View Post
                      Conveniently forgetting ChromeOS, I guess.

                      I wouldn't be surprised to see Ubuntu jumping onto the SystemD bandwagon for 14.10 anyway. Although, when's Jessie out? End of 2015? So, Ubuntu are better off waiting until 15.04 or 15.10, which should give them a cycle or two to get into sync and bugfix before the 16.04 LTS.

                      I'll miss this drama now it's all over.

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                      • #12
                        Jessie has no fixed release date but the time between releases was around 24 +/- 2-3 months for the the last couple of releases. It should be ~Q1 2015.

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by scaine View Post
                          I wouldn't be surprised to see Ubuntu jumping onto the SystemD bandwagon for 14.10 anyway.
                          This.

                          It's probably just a matter of time until Canonical follows along, now that everyone seems to be either switching from Upstart, or going from SysVinit to systemd directly.

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by scaine View Post
                            I'll miss this drama now it's all over.
                            Not even close. There's very little question that a General Resolution is coming.

                            Not to mention the whole T/L thing isn't settled.

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by Qwerry View Post
                              This.

                              It's probably just a matter of time until Canonical follows along, now that everyone seems to be either switching from Upstart, or going from SysVinit to systemd directly.
                              Indeed, it's what Canonical did with Wayland too, they waited until everyone went along with it and then ... adopt... went ahead and insisted that Mir is better. So don't hold your breath.
                              I'm sure SystemD and Mir are the best.

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