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  • #16
    Benchmarks or it doesn't happen. Can't wait to see the results!

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    • #17
      Originally posted by qlum View Post
      At least one of the claims has been factually proven to be incorrect as it would be impossible for a os to use 300% or in other words creates twice the ram linux uses out of thin air while the thing itself doesn't use any memory.
      I don't understand how these claims are confusing people... 300% better ram usage doesn't mean they're saying your system suddenly has 3x more ram in general... it means they're saying their kernel uses 3x less ram than linux.. 100% faster means twice as fast, etc..

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      • #18
        Originally posted by F i L View Post
        I don't understand how these claims are confusing people... 300% better ram usage doesn't mean they're saying your system suddenly has 3x more ram in general... it means they're saying their kernel uses 3x less ram than linux.. 100% faster means twice as fast, etc..
        That type of claim might make sense if the Linux kernel were producing something - but it's not. The Linux kernel, or any other OS kernel, is overhead, plain and simple. It's something that enables applications to do the real work, but it produces nothing itself. The ultimate kernel would use no time, no memory.

        Since the kernel actually does nothing useful itself, the best metric you can say is that it gets out of the way and lets the application do its work. In that case, the best the kernel could possibly do is get 100% faster, because that would mean that the time/memory/etc that the kernel adds to execution has gone to zero. But 100% is the impossible ideal. (Unless you have some sort of out-of-band cpu and memory, allowing the user-state cpu/memory to be 100% focused, but then that's a different type of overhead completely.)

        If the kernel actually produced something useful, then maybe it could actually get 100% or even 300% faster - but it doesn't, and that's not its job.

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        • #19
          I find these RAM-Nazis to be quite amusing everytime. How often do you hear stuff like "*mimimimi* Browser A uses 100 MB more than browser B!!!!!" Wow seriously who gives a shit about RAM usage. Might aswell just let the program write everything to disk and use 0% RAM if that somehow is considered to be cool and efficient.

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          • #20
            Originally posted by qlum View Post
            At least one of the claims has been factually proven to be incorrect as it would be impossible for a os to use 300% or in other words creates twice the ram linux uses out of thin air while the thing itself doesn't use any memory.
            300% less normally means 1/4

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            • #21
              I just wrote a new operating system too. It's so fast, and so efficient that it doesn't even need a hard disk, just a tiny amount of high speed flash memory. It stores all files as md5sum hashes and regenerates them on the fly from the checksums. The kernel is actually an AI that's way smarter than even Linus Torvalds himself!

              But it's not compatible with the GPL, so you Linux freetards can't have it.

              I call my new operating system "Bollux"

              (It's easy to make ridiculous claims)

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              • #22
                WTF?

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                • #23
                  Originally posted by phred14 View Post
                  Since the kernel actually does nothing useful itself, the best metric you can say is that it gets out of the way and lets the application do its work.
                  Math is hard, huh?

                  The kernel does all kinds of stuff. Memory allocation. File transfers. etc. You can measure the overhead of each of these. Saying that A is 100% faster than B is just an awkward way of saying that B takes +100% as much time as A (so if A takes 5ms then B takes A+100%*A=10ms). In other words, if A is 100% than it takes 50% as much time. Thus a file transfer completes in 50% of the time. Measured overhead for memory allocation takes 50% the time.

                  Likewise for memory usage. 300% improved memory usage is an awkward way to say that B uses +300% as much memory as A, e.g. that A uses 25% as much memory as B. (A+300%A=B, A+3A=B, 4A=B, A=1/4B, A=25%B.)

                  That's all a big IF of course since these claims seem fairly spectacular. At this point in the OS design game "huge" gains are like 5% with really exceptional gains hitting maybe 20%, in specific areas. 100% across the board is insane.

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                  • #24
                    lol

                    Originally posted by chenxiaolong View Post
                    WTF?

                    this a joke? don t install this thing in your pc.

                    "the SphinUX OS can handle Hybrid graphics in a revolutionary way, using an advanced utility named SAGAS "SphinUX Advanced Graphics Adapter Switcher" to run different sessions using different graphics adapters."

                    lolol i spend almost a year to put my hybrid system working, this is a miracle lolol all ppl from nvidia, amd, intel, xorg, mesa3d works for nothing lolol

                    nice joke but its not april 1rs

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                    • #25
                      Originally posted by elanthis View Post
                      Math is hard, huh?
                      see see who is talking ...

                      If a kernel uses 10MB (or whatever) of RAM that's 100% ... now if you use 100% less memory that's 0 MB. And if you go above 100% you actually have your kernel provide ram that didn't exist before ... kinda a funny concept but I'd invest in it

                      PS: also isn't the point of the original post that the guy ridicules the bad language that leaves much ambiguity and/or is incorrect which should not happen to that extent for a serious project.
                      Last edited by YoungManKlaus; 06-05-2013, 02:26 PM.

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                      • #26
                        Originally posted by chenxiaolong View Post
                        WTF?
                        Wow. Talk about ridiculous. I mean who would run Unity on ArchLinux?

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                        • #27
                          Originally posted by BO$$ View Post
                          No it's not normal for a text editor to use 1.5 GB RAM (looking at you eclipse you fucking pig).
                          Eclipse isn't a text editor, it's an IDE, which typically use over a GB of RAM. If you're trying to use it as a text editor, that's your own fault.

                          And yeah, java is pretty awful about using too much memory.

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                          • #28
                            Originally posted by elanthis View Post
                            Math is hard, huh?
                            No, you missed my point, even though I stated more explicitly later. I agree that the kernel does stuff, but everything it does is in service of the applications. Once again, a "perfect" kernel would need no resources, and all cpu time and memory would be available to the applications. Of course that's silly. But people who hang out at places like this tend to like OS guts, internals, performance, etc - and may be prone to treating the OS as more important than the applications being run. That's putting the cart out in front of the horse. The OS enables the applications, and the less resources it uses to that end, the better. But it produces nothing, except to gearheads like us.

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                            • #29
                              Originally posted by blackout23 View Post
                              I find these RAM-Nazis to be quite amusing everytime. How often do you hear stuff like "*mimimimi* Browser A uses 100 MB more than browser B!!!!!" Wow seriously who gives a shit about RAM usage. Might aswell just let the program write everything to disk and use 0% RAM if that somehow is considered to be cool and efficient.
                              people that run something besides the browser and people that run graphical terminal servers do care

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                              • #30
                                Originally posted by johnc View Post
                                Wow. Talk about ridiculous. I mean who would run Unity on ArchLinux?
                                Lots of people do (I'm the main packager )

                                You're probably not interested, but here's the code anyway: https://github.com/chenxiaolong/Unity-for-Arch
                                Last edited by chenxiaolong; 06-05-2013, 03:16 PM.

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