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  • Smart Scopes Get Removed From Ubuntu 13.04

    Phoronix: Smart Scopes Gets Removed From Ubuntu 13.04

    It's been decided at the last minute that "smart scopes", a feature of the new Unity desktop, will not ship in Ubuntu 13.04...

    http://www.phoronix.com/vr.php?view=MTMzODg

  • #2
    Very good move. 13.04 is so fine tuned and good working.
    Bringing in no finished software would have boiled this near perfect release.

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    • #3
      Agreed, happy to see this and an acknowledgement of an unfinished product, and postponement of it.

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      • #4
        Originally posted by Pajn View Post
        Very good move. 13.04 is so fine tuned and good working.
        Bringing in no finished software would have boiled this near perfect release.
        I wish I could run it, but I don't know if I can downgrade X.org because it wont work with the legacy catalyst drivers.

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        • #5
          Smart scopes is proprietary crapware. It's dependent on closed-source server-side software.

          *DISLIKE*

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          • #6
            Less spyware, good.

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            • #7
              Originally posted by dee. View Post
              Smart scopes is proprietary crapware. It's dependent on closed-source server-side software.

              *DISLIKE*
              So what? If it works and is convenient why not use it? I try not to get stuck in free software religion like Stallman is.

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              • #8
                Originally posted by dee. View Post
                Smart scopes is proprietary crapware. It's dependent on closed-source server-side software.

                *DISLIKE*
                Which is why you can turn them off, or when Smart Scopes get an official release, you can turn off the ones you don't want individually.
                Great thing, this freedom of choice.

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by ворот93 View Post
                  So what? If it works and is convenient why not use it? I try not to get stuck in free software religion like Stallman is.
                  People like you are missing the point about free software. You're too young or ignorant to really understand the idea or what it has given to you.

                  Try to imagine a world without free software. A world where every program is developed in secrecy and sold by corporations. Where there are no hackers or coders who do it for the sheer enjoyment of coding, instead only worker drones for large software corporations pushing code in a thankless 9-5 cubicle. Users are all demoted to the role of passive consumption, instead of active participation. You won't be able to control what your computer does, as you're only it's user - there's no ideology to support the idea that a user must have full control of their hardware, so every computer, every OS, is riddled with DRM and trusted computing schemes. If you try to copy files that are marked as copyrighted, your computer won't let you. If you try to save eg. video streams on your hard disk, your computer won't let you. Every time you try to perform an action your computer/OS manufacturer has deemed illegal, probably because it goes against other corporate interests, your computer just goes "I can't let you do that, Dave" and maybe reports you on some universal naughty list. There's no such thing as net neutrality, tor, piratism, freedom of speech - all is controlled by corporate interest. No peer-to-peer networks exist, everything follows a top-down passive consumption model.

                  See, THAT is the world your "convenience" brings you. That is the cost of ignoring freedom. Free software is not a religion, it is a way to guarantee that the user has some power against the corporations, that the user is in control of their hardware and software. It's digital activism. Hacker ethics. Stallman might be extreme in his views, but it's good that someone like him exists, to bring a balance to all these greedy sellouts who'd forget their free software roots in a heartbeat to make a quick buck.

                  Those who would give up freedom for convenience deserve neither.

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by dee. View Post
                    People like you are missing the point about free software. You're too young or ignorant to really understand the idea or what it has given to you.

                    Try to imagine a world without free software. A world where every program is developed in secrecy and sold by corporations. Where there are no hackers or coders who do it for the sheer enjoyment of coding, instead only worker drones for large software corporations pushing code in a thankless 9-5 cubicle. Users are all demoted to the role of passive consumption, instead of active participation. You won't be able to control what your computer does, as you're only it's user - there's no ideology to support the idea that a user must have full control of their hardware, so every computer, every OS, is riddled with DRM and trusted computing schemes. If you try to copy files that are marked as copyrighted, your computer won't let you. If you try to save eg. video streams on your hard disk, your computer won't let you. Every time you try to perform an action your computer/OS manufacturer has deemed illegal, probably because it goes against other corporate interests, your computer just goes "I can't let you do that, Dave" and maybe reports you on some universal naughty list. There's no such thing as net neutrality, tor, piratism, freedom of speech - all is controlled by corporate interest. No peer-to-peer networks exist, everything follows a top-down passive consumption model.

                    See, THAT is the world your "convenience" brings you. That is the cost of ignoring freedom. Free software is not a religion, it is a way to guarantee that the user has some power against the corporations, that the user is in control of their hardware and software. It's digital activism. Hacker ethics. Stallman might be extreme in his views, but it's good that someone like him exists, to bring a balance to all these greedy sellouts who'd forget their free software roots in a heartbeat to make a quick buck.

                    Those who would give up freedom for convenience deserve neither.
                    I will take iron-fisted control over anarchy any day. People should have their sense of entitlement cut down to size by being forced to toe the line.

                    There is no such thing as freedom without regulations.

                    And as a content producer myself I refuse to let anybody have free reign over my copyrighted content without paying any royalties or even seeking approval to distribute it.

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by ворот93 View Post
                      So what? If it works and is convenient why not use it? I try not to get stuck in free software religion like Stallman is.
                      Well some of us don't believe in giving up free software for 'convenience' especially when that convenience involves sending everything I type into the dash to a proprietary server. That is just about the very definition of spyware... And being tracked like that is one of the MAJOR points against proprietary software for everyone at the free software camp. It's one of the reasons the FSF was founded in the first place!

                      Ethics aside, I'm now wondering what awesome new convenience feature Ubuntu will ship with this release? 12.04 had the HUD, 12.10 had the whole web apps thing and dash previews. What's 13.04 bringing to the table? I thought the smart scopes were it's big awesome feature?

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by dee. View Post
                        Try to imagine a world without free software. (... snip GRIM DYSTOPIAN FUTURE warnings ...)
                        If only there was some kind of sensible middle ground.

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by dee. View Post
                          People like you are missing the point about free software. You're too young or ignorant to really understand the idea or what it has given to you.

                          Try to imagine a world without free software. A world where every program is developed in secrecy and sold by corporations. Where there are no hackers or coders who do it for the sheer enjoyment of coding, instead only worker drones for large software corporations pushing code in a thankless 9-5 cubicle. Users are all demoted to the role of passive consumption, instead of active participation. You won't be able to control what your computer does, as you're only it's user - there's no ideology to support the idea that a user must have full control of their hardware, so every computer, every OS, is riddled with DRM and trusted computing schemes. If you try to copy files that are marked as copyrighted, your computer won't let you. If you try to save eg. video streams on your hard disk, your computer won't let you. Every time you try to perform an action your computer/OS manufacturer has deemed illegal, probably because it goes against other corporate interests, your computer just goes "I can't let you do that, Dave" and maybe reports you on some universal naughty list. There's no such thing as net neutrality, tor, piratism, freedom of speech - all is controlled by corporate interest. No peer-to-peer networks exist, everything follows a top-down passive consumption model.

                          See, THAT is the world your "convenience" brings you. That is the cost of ignoring freedom. Free software is not a religion, it is a way to guarantee that the user has some power against the corporations, that the user is in control of their hardware and software. It's digital activism. Hacker ethics. Stallman might be extreme in his views, but it's good that someone like him exists, to bring a balance to all these greedy sellouts who'd forget their free software roots in a heartbeat to make a quick buck.

                          Those who would give up freedom for convenience deserve neither.
                          Software is an effing TOOL. You don't pray to it, you are not religious about it. It should WORK.

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by ворот93 View Post
                            Software is an effing TOOL. You don't pray to it, you are not religious about it. It should WORK.
                            Stay with Ubuntu and keep hailing the "convenient" but non-free features and see how fast Ubuntu serves Canonical's needs and not yours. In my experience "just works" is software with the least restrictive licensing and the least dependence on online third party components. Then again, some people like onerous restrictions, so it may be right up your alley.

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by ворот93 View Post
                              Software is an effing TOOL. You don't pray to it, you are not religious about it. It should WORK.
                              Oh my, what a convenient way to sidestep and avoid everything I just said and move right back into crying "wah wah! free software is a religion!" without providing any kind of rational basis or justification for your argument.

                              Thanks for playing though! Who's next?

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