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    Phoronix: Debian 7.0 "Wheezy" Installer Release Candidate 1

    The first release candidate of Debian 7.0 "Wheezy" has been released as the official release of the "Squeeze" successor approaches in the coming months...

    http://www.phoronix.com/vr.php?view=MTMwNTY

  • #2
    Originally posted by phoronix View Post
    Phoronix: Debian 7.0 "Wheezy" Installer Release Candidate 1

    The first release candidate of Debian 7.0 "Wheezy" has been released as the official release of the "Squeeze" successor approaches in the coming months...

    http://www.phoronix.com/vr.php?view=MTMwNTY
    It would be nice to know if this is "Steam-compatible" out of the box.

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    • #3
      Originally posted by sabriah View Post
      It would be nice to know if this is "Steam-compatible" out of the box.
      It is "steam-compatible".

      You just need to install Steam on Wheezy with an installer script which takes cares of things like wrong glibc version and dependencies not found in Debian repos.

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      • #4
        Originally posted by sabriah View Post
        It would be nice to know if this is "Steam-compatible" out of the box.
        Originally posted by moilami View Post
        You just need to install Steam on Wheezy with an installer script which takes cares of things like wrong glibc version and dependencies not found in Debian repos.
        In other words, no.

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        • #5
          In Debian experimental would be a Steam compatible libc6 as well but when you build binaries and you want to share em then they would be all incompatible with pure wheezy. Steam began to ship a compat environment but they did it completely wrong. The bootstrap code requires a new libc6 and of course they don't use that compat files for bootstrapping. Absolutely useless code right now...

          Basically wheezy is very interesting as it is the first multiarch Debian version. When you combine it with the backports I do for Kanotix Dragonfire which is wheezy based it looks pretty solid. I use of course latest kernel 3.8 and have got fglrx legcy 13.1, fglrx 13.2 beta 6, wine-unstable 1.5.24 and some others in my repo.

          Steam worked since the beginning with Debian with my script. Just some stupid apps needed a few more tricks like Unity of Command (there you have to extract libc6 again in the program folder) or sometimes they have got weird dependency checks. I dont remember the demo right now, but no game should require ia32-libs, that's just wrong when the system is multiarch. Ubuntu uses it as meta package now but it will always be wrong when you check if that package is installed.

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          • #6
            Originally posted by Kano View Post
            Steam began to ship a compat environment but they did it completely wrong.
            Do you have documentation explaining how it should be done?

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            • #7
              It's so nice that the Debian installer has progressed beyond 2001 and now supports WPA/WPA2.

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              • #8
                I can't believe that people actually use Debian. I installed it once, and I remember thinking to myself "Wow, I remember this stuff. But, I want to use the new stuff!"

                Somehow, I suspect that those KDE trollers we have around here(The ones who constantly complain about bugs) are using Debian - Martin Graesslin has generally(Not aimed toward Debian) addressed this (though, I don't have the link, sorry) about people who seek to have bugs fixed but they're using too old of a version to get their bug fixed. The KDE Devs only fix so far back. I would too.

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by randomizer View Post
                  It's so nice that the Debian installer has progressed beyond 2001 and now supports WPA/WPA2.
                  Its been true that the installer did not support wireless network connections for doing netinstalls until now. You always had to hook the machine up to a router with an Ethernet cable to do a netinstall. About time Debian got this missing feature installed.

                  However its not really a good idea to do a netinstall over a wireless connection as the connection is not as stable as an Ethernet connection, but soon you can if you do trust your wifi connection.

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by halfmanhalfamazing View Post
                    I can't believe that people actually use Debian. I installed it once, and I remember thinking to myself "Wow, I remember this stuff. But, I want to use the new stuff!"
                    It's a perfect work system. The most rock-solid distro in the universe, and I don't need bling or experimental kernel features for my workstation.

                    I used OpenSUSE and Kubuntu for a while and although they are both decent distros, there was too much breakage and whoopsies when updating for my liking.

                    I would prefer it if the unstable branch were a bit more up-to-date, but that's Debian for you. The "unstable" version would be called "stable" by any other distro.

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by Kano View Post
                      Steam worked since the beginning with Debian with my script.
                      Much appreciated.

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                      • #12
                        @stqn

                        It is basically simple when you are able to download the missing libs before you execute binaries. Or you just try to execute the bootstrap code, check the errorlevel. In case it failed then you download the libc6 (i dont know why valve has got so many libs in the environment, thats not even needed) and put the libc6 in the same dir (thats what i use) or a bit cleaner use a different dir but in LD_LIBRARY_PATH set by the launcher.

                        When the first signs have been there for a Linux client i was able to bootstrap the client completely with a small bash script, all i needed was

                        http://store.steampowered.com/public...m_client_linux

                        i did not monitor the internet traffic to know what url is used right now, maybe somebody will find the correct url and i can write my own bootstrap code. it is a piece of cake, i wrote similar things for win32 and osx

                        http://phoronix.com/forums/showthrea...622#post123622

                        http://phoronix.com/forums/showthrea...688#post123688

                        I think i had a better script that wrote the file with the checksums in the correct place as well but you should get the idea how it works. It's definitely no rocket science you need to learn to do it right.

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                        • #13
                          Yo. I have heard Debian now made Cinnamon and eudev default. They did so because of the very convincing arguments stated on the Phoronix forums. Is that true?

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by funkSTAR View Post
                            Yo. I have heard Debian now made Cinnamon and eudev default. They did so because of the very convincing arguments stated on the Phoronix forums. Is that true?
                            No

                            Gnome 3.4

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by funkSTAR View Post
                              Yo. I have heard Debian now made Cinnamon and eudev default. They did so because of the very convincing arguments stated on the Phoronix forums. Is that true?
                              Debian is a conservative distro. They stick to outdated technologies.

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