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  • After Many Delays, Fedora 18 Is Finally Ready To Ship

    Phoronix: After Many Delays, Fedora 18 Is Finally Ready To Ship

    After another delay last week, the long and drawn out release of Fedora 18 will finally happen next week...

    http://www.phoronix.com/vr.php?view=MTI3MTY

  • #2
    The latest Fedora 18 build image is indeed very robust, burn the image onto a DVD, put it into the DVD receiver upside down, reboot, and the fucker will still install.

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    • #3
      It's a project management issue, really. Nobody would care much if they'd just said back in November that they were delaying the release by two months. But delaying it by a couple of weeks *eight times* is a bad look... a sign that nobody is taking a look at the situation and saying "two more weeks won't be enough".

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      • #4
        i was saying this all along. proprietary vendors have delays too. 10.5 was delayed for like a year and vista was delayed for many years. the difference is that they gave the delay period ahead of time. although i have to say that everytime I see a Fedora release being delayed I laugh inside, because that thing is alpha software compared to Windows. I'm sorry but that's why truth. Any person that has any shred of self-respect would only use Debian Stable or equivalent. Anything less is basically full of bugs and is just gonna waste people's time.

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        • #5
          ^^^

          After it's had time to cook for a while, it's pretty stable. I've never really had problems unless I started messing around with major packages. I'd tend to agree that it's sort of like Fedora is in a constant Beta/RC stage, though.
          Last edited by Nobu; 01-09-2013, 11:36 PM. Reason: unnecessary quote is unnecessary.

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          • #6
            Originally posted by garegin View Post
            i was saying this all along. proprietary vendors have delays too. 10.5 was delayed for like a year and vista was delayed for many years. the difference is that they gave the delay period ahead of time. although i have to say that everytime I see a Fedora release being delayed I laugh inside, because that thing is alpha software compared to Windows. I'm sorry but that's why truth. Any person that has any shred of self-respect would only use Debian Stable or equivalent. Anything less is basically full of bugs and is just gonna waste people's time.
            Fedora had never had the same target of Debian stable, Ubuntu lts or Centos... it aims to be bleeding edge and to showcase the latest technologies. Anyway, for me it works quite well (but yes, Debian is more stable and i'll choose it for important tasks).

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            • #7
              Luckily I abandoned the trainwreck called Fedora a year ago and happily switched to CentOS 6.3.

              I don't need this f*ckload of changes every release, I don't even want to keep up with them - I want a stable system I can use for years without fearing that something might break now and then.

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              • #8
                yeah well....


                now I don't want it anymore :/

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by birdie View Post
                  Luckily I abandoned the trainwreck called Fedora a year ago and happily switched to CentOS 6.3.

                  I don't need this f*ckload of changes every release, I don't even want to keep up with them - I want a stable system I can use for years without fearing that something might break now and then.
                  Then it was retarded of you to install Fedora in the first place, as that is definitely not what it is marketed as.
                  I, for example, am fucking sick of having to use 3 years old software on Debian at work.

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                  • #10
                    While I agree that if you want rock hard reliability Debian Stable or CentOS are better choices, I have not had too many issues using Fedora. And the fact that it offers some semblance of stability while giving me close to the most recent drivers and kernels is a big motivation to use it if you really do not want to mess about with rolling release distros like Arch.

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by birdie View Post
                      Luckily I abandoned the trainwreck called Fedora a year ago and happily switched to CentOS 6.3.

                      I don't need this f*ckload of changes every release, I don't even want to keep up with them - I want a stable system I can use for years without fearing that something might break now and then.
                      So because Fedora isn't what you want, it's a trainwreck?

                      I'm going for a cup of coffee! I will not tolerate this trainwreck called 'tea'!

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by AdamW View Post
                        So because Fedora isn't what you want, it's a trainwreck?

                        I'm going for a cup of coffee! I will not tolerate this trainwreck called 'tea'!
                        Good one!

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                        • #13
                          for example if u are after lastest radeon oss drivers like i am on my laptop fedora is a pretty good choice, bleeding edge and stable enough. i use the kde fedora spin never had really issues like kernel panics after updates system becoming unbootable bla bla. Aldo i use my laptop just for music surfing torrents movies i dont game on it i have a big pc for that. And i think one should install fedora atleast one in respect for the redhats community contrib and support. They run a money making bussines on server side but they also give back.

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                          • #14
                            Yes, Fedora is a good choice for tracking Radeon changes

                            Originally posted by adriankx View Post
                            for example if u are after lastest radeon oss drivers like i am on my laptop fedora is a pretty good choice, bleeding edge and stable enough.
                            I am using Fedora precisely because I have lots of Radeon hardware that needs the latest Mesa. Having said that, even Fedora can't really keep up with Radeon OpenGL changes these days. Fedora 17 has only Mesa 8.0.4, which is a long way behind Mesa git. Looking forward to Mesa 9.x so that my HD6450 has better support.

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by chrisr View Post
                              I am using Fedora precisely because I have lots of Radeon hardware that needs the latest Mesa. Having said that, even Fedora can't really keep up with Radeon OpenGL changes these days. Fedora 17 has only Mesa 8.0.4, which is a long way behind Mesa git. Looking forward to Mesa 9.x so that my HD6450 has better support.
                              Yes, we are in full agreement here.

                              There used to be a "mesa-dri-experimental" package that included later snapshots of the development Mesa versions but it sadly was later removed.

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