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    Phoronix: Ubuntu 12.10 Is Ready To Enter The Zoo

    It's release day today for Ubuntu 12.10, which was developed under the animal codename of "Quantal Quetzal", and boasts many new features...

    http://www.phoronix.com/vr.php?view=MTIwOTM

  • #2
    AFAIC, UBUNTU gone to the ZOO long ago

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    • #3
      it's a joke of an OS because of X.org and pulseaudio. Also because you need to add PPA to get the latest apps. also because of lack of itunes and office.

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      • #4
        Originally posted by garegin View Post
        also because of lack of itunes and office.
        Amarok. Google docs.

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        • #5
          Originally posted by garegin View Post
          it's a joke of an OS because of X.org and pulseaudio. Also because you need to add PPA to get the latest apps. also because of lack of itunes and office.
          Please people,

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          • #6
            It's out now.

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            • #7
              It does not work with Radeon 7870

              Intel i5 2500 + Radeon 7870, standard setup.

              It works only with the default driver which is dog slow.
              With fglrx it works only up to the login screen, after that no desktop, not even terminal (ctrl + alt + F*).

              Nice work AMD, Canonical and Kernel guys.

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              • #8
                It works only with the default driver which is dog slow.
                This is because your Radeon is too new for the OSS-driver and the software-based LLVMpipe-driver is used.

                With fglrx it works only up to the login screen, after that no desktop, not even terminal (ctrl + alt + F*).
                The latest fglrx-driver which is included in Ubuntu 12.10 should support your card. But fglrx is known to be a bit shaky.

                Nice work AMD, Canonical and Kernel guys.
                Blame AMD for not releasing a proper driver for your card and/or full specs in time to the kernel developers. Canonical can only pick the work of the kernel developers and they can't to magic.

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by zoomblab View Post
                  Intel i5 2500 + Radeon 7870, standard setup.

                  It works only with the default driver which is dog slow.
                  With fglrx it works only up to the login screen, after that no desktop, not even terminal (ctrl + alt + F*).

                  Nice work AMD, Canonical and Kernel guys.
                  I had kernel headers missing for some reason. Stupid I know.
                  Make sure to have "linux-headers-generic"(except if you want pae etc, do accordingly), then reinstall fglrx/fglrx-updates(apt-get install --reinstall).
                  That worked for me. Oh, and "amdconfig --initial -f" ..(as root always)

                  Don't know if this can fix it for you.

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by garegin View Post
                    it's a joke of an OS because of X.org and pulseaudio. Also because you need to add PPA to get the latest apps. also because of lack of itunes and office.
                    Much the same way Windows8 is a joke of an OS because it lacks iPhoto and Garage Band. In reality you can run most of MS Office suite on Linux, you just shouldn't. And Banshee has support for iDevices, or so I hear. Wouldn't touch them with a barge pole myself, but there you go.

                    I'm with you on pulseaudio and the entire Unix/Linux graphics stack train wreck though. There's a reason every modern desktop OS (by that I mean designed since early 80s) eschews network transparency and the window manager architecture. It was great for thin client terminals in the age of ye olde 10base2, but has to be hacked around with all sorts of barely working extensions to support functionality people demand from a desktop (e.g., full screen or windowed 1080p video with no tearing at the same time as 3d applications are running while compositing UI).

                    Pulse likewise has the wrong goals. I can count the times I've wanted to easily play a movie soundtrack on some remote machine instead of the one I'm using on the toes of one hand. Low latency and minimal resource use is something I look for every time.

                    Good news is Wayland will drag the Linux graphics stack into this millenium kicking and screaming, and it's possible to replace pulseaudio with alsa without too much pain.

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                    • #11
                      a Question

                      A Question ?

                      I am not a Ubuntu guy. I was rather a Fedora lover.
                      But I switched to Ubuntu as my office also uses Ubuntu with UbuntuOne. And upcoming Steam.


                      Currently I am using Ubuntu 12.04.
                      Will the Upgrade Manager upgrade this to 12.10 ?

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by garegin View Post
                        it's a joke of an OS because of X.org and pulseaudio. Also because you need to add PPA to get the latest apps. also because of lack of itunes and office.
                        Office I could kind of get though Libreoffice and google docs are good enough for me. But iTunes?! Please let iTunes and Quicktime die in a fire.

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                        • #13
                          Just did my upgrade from 12.04 to 12.10 via the upgrade manager. Im an FGLRX user as well. The upgrade process was about as perfect as you could hope for. Rebooted and logged and it all worked perfectly.

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by Ferdinand View Post
                            But iTunes?! Please let iTunes and Quicktime die in a fire.
                            Totally agree with you.
                            They are the Hitler of the IT World.
                            Here, the Hitler is dead but the Nazi (apple) still lives on.

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by ayandon View Post
                              A Question ?

                              I am not a Ubuntu guy. I was rather a Fedora lover.
                              But I switched to Ubuntu as my office also uses Ubuntu with UbuntuOne. And upcoming Steam.


                              Currently I am using Ubuntu 12.04.
                              Will the Upgrade Manager upgrade this to 12.10 ?
                              No, by default the update manager will only notify you and ask whether you want to upgrade when the next LTS(Long Term Support) comes out(about 1.5 years from now), since the one you have is also LTS.
                              By clicking on "Settings" on the update manager window, you can change this behavior, to notify never or for any new release. Choosing the latest will cause the update manager to notify you about 12.10 release and ask whether you'd like to upgrade.

                              Personally I'd suggest clean install, just to be sure. If you go with upgrade, you might want to disable any extra PPAs first and uninstall any proprietary graphics drivers that may be installed(and reinstall them after). Not sure if the latest is needed, although some PPAs had a significant chance of not working for 12.10 yet. I've never done an upgrade on a new Ubuntu personally though, so know this while you read this(oops, you probably already have).

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