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  • Wayland/Weston 0.99 Is Out, 1.0 Next Monday

    Phoronix: Wayland/Weston 0.99 Is Out, 1.0 Next Monday

    Wayland v0.99.0 was released yesterday evening along with a matching version of the reference Weston compositor. The planned Wayland 1.0 release is penciled in for next week Monday, 22 October...

    http://www.phoronix.com/vr.php?view=MTIwODE

  • #2
    Due to the last minute API breakage, he's letting the 0.99.0 snapshots bake for a week
    One week seems a bit on the short side.

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    • #3
      I hope this announcement will get all the top end graphics hackers take a look at it and see if something is wrong.

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      • #4
        Cool, can't wait for the first official release. It also means we'll soon be able to see how good(or bad) Wayland really is, and I have a bit of a good feeling of course.
        It should only get easier to test/see it from first hand from now on.

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        • #5
          Originally posted by Rigaldo View Post
          Cool, can't wait for the first official release. It also means we'll soon be able to see how good(or bad) Wayland really is, and I have a bit of a good feeling of course.
          It should only get easier to test/see it from first hand from now on.
          Its the desktop guys that "hold it back" and some basic apps of course (ie. firefox). Hope that after the official release we'll see a full desktop in a few months time.

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          • #6
            Originally posted by 89c51 View Post
            Its the desktop guys that "hold it back" and some basic apps of course (ie. firefox). Hope that after the official release we'll see a full desktop in a few months time.
            As the article already states: Wayland is far from being usable. The 1.0 release means only stability regarding to APIs. Up until now Wayland was too much of a moving target for other developers to port to it.

            IMO modifying applications and its toolkits to look reasonable on retina displays is a more important goal.

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            • #7
              Originally posted by Awesomeness View Post
              As the article already states: Wayland is far from being usable. The 1.0 release means only stability regarding to APIs. Up until now Wayland was too much of a moving target for other developers to port to it.

              IMO modifying applications and its toolkits to look reasonable on retina displays is a more important goal.
              Hmmmm.

              Are there things missing in the protocol for writing a full featured compositor or its just weston thats not feature full? I was under the impression that only the text stuff were not ready yet.

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              • #8
                Weston is like an "example" compositor from my understanding. It's not excactly meant to be used by DE's etc(unless they choose to). Possibly will likely have more usage like twm, as fallback/test that the windowing system works, rather than desktop use. Can someone who knows better confirm.

                But yeah, with 1.0 release and API stability, it should start to be targeted by more for compatibility(as mentioned). ^_^

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                • #9
                  good good

                  xorg needs to die, die and be cremated and forgotten for it was written in the language of c+fail

                  wayland will usher in the age of redemption for linux. I can picture it right now:

                  fedora 19 with kernel 4.3 and wayland and btrfs and arm and lack of aids.

                  hopefully by that time the gnome fags will realize no one is gonna put their shit on a smartphone/tablet and will get a clue.


                  "IMO modifying applications and its toolkits to look reasonable on retina displays is a more important goal. "

                  IMO no one cares about your homosexuality or your apple products

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by Pallidus View Post
                    good good

                    xorg needs to die, die and be cremated and forgotten for it was written in the language of c+fail

                    wayland will usher in the age of redemption for linux. I can picture it right now:

                    fedora 19 with kernel 4.3 and wayland and btrfs and arm and lack of aids.

                    hopefully by that time the gnome fags will realize no one is gonna put their shit on a smartphone/tablet and will get a clue.


                    "IMO modifying applications and its toolkits to look reasonable on retina displays is a more important goal. "

                    IMO no one cares about your homosexuality or your apple products

                    Wait wait... Kernel 4.3 within around a year and a half? 0_o

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by Rigaldo View Post
                      Wait wait... Kernel 4.3 within around a year and a half? 0_o
                      4.x is waaaaaaay down the road. Torvalds said they will change the name -which more or less means nothing- after 3.x series reaches 3.20.

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by 89c51 View Post
                        4.x is waaaaaaay down the road. Torvalds said they will change the name -which more or less means nothing- after 3.x series reaches 3.20.
                        Good, I was worried I missed something .. xD

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                        • #13
                          I hope Weston/Wayland starts faster than X. My Kernel and Userspace boot is just 1,3 seconds after that the screen goes dark when x server starts and that actually takes longer than the real bootup.

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by 89c51 View Post
                            Its the desktop guys that "hold it back" and some basic apps of course (ie. firefox). Hope that after the official release we'll see a full desktop in a few months time.
                            Hopefully.

                            The major toolkits (GTK/QT) have been working on Wayland for a while now. And with it's compositor approach combined with a embedded X server it should already be compatible with all the applications you are using today. Early adopters shouldn't have much trouble using it in a few months, I expect.

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by Awesomeness View Post
                              IMO modifying applications and its toolkits to look reasonable on retina displays is a more important goal.
                              I don't think that trying to force applications to conform to Apple's marketing bullshit is really that high of a priority.

                              Plus, since most of Gnome and I suppose KDE uses vector-based graphics and X windows supports arbitrary DPI settings then it should look fine on higher resolution displays if properly configured. Not that most people actually know how to do that. Especially if they are using a desktop that makes it a pain in the ass to configure stuff; like XFCE.

                              PS. The secret to retina display is that they moved from 72 DPI to 144 DPI... which means that they took their icons and reduced the size they are shrunk by 50%.

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