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  • Kubuntu Gets New Backer, Parting Ways With Canonical

    Phoronix: Kubuntu Gets New Backer, Parting Ways With Canonical

    While some KDE users running Kubuntu were concerned following Canonical's decision to drop support for Kubuntu following the 12.04 LTS release, there's a new backer of the Kubuntu project outside of Canonical...

    http://www.phoronix.com/vr.php?view=MTA4NTM

  • #2
    Good to here. I use Kubuntu for Now almost 3 year(Ubuntu and Linux for 5 years) and like KDE much much more then Gnome 2/3/Unity or others. Hope this decision will bring good to Kubuntu.

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    • #3
      What exactly does Blue Systems do? I've Googled them briefly and found 2 Blue Systems and the relavent one's website didn't mention any business, just links to projects that they sponsored.

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      • #4
        Great news. Kubuntu can exist as a community driven distribution, but it's great it will be sponsored by some company.

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        • #5
          Originally posted by Prescience500 View Post
          What exactly does Blue Systems do? I've Googled them briefly and found 2 Blue Systems and the relavent one's website didn't mention any business, just links to projects that they sponsored.
          It seems to be or have been a computer shop & IT services company, that also does programming jobs (at least, that's what they registered as). The company seems to be owned by the leader(?) of the Netrunner OS project (which is based on Kubuntu).

          (And there are also at least two other companies registered at the same address.)

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          • #6
            kubuntu wasn't exactly a polished distro. it was thrown together. coupled with the clusterfuck nature of kde4, it was a rough combo.

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            • #7
              Originally posted by garegin View Post
              kubuntu wasn't exactly a polished distro. it was thrown together. coupled with the clusterfuck nature of kde4, it was a rough combo.
              It's much different now and it's no longer "thrown together" if you're using base packages. Overall, thanks to solid Ubuntu base it's now much more polished than anything else I've ever tried. Canonical does QA and has test farms running, so Ubuntu and Kubuntu will be better and better.

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              • #8
                Well, I found that Mint KDE edition was just hordes more polished and less likely to bork on any systems I tried.

                On the Acer Eee-book Happy I have (a regular 10" netbook with single core atom, 1GiB ram, 250GB disk), Ubuntu was randomly sluggish, and generally unusable. Kubuntu ran better, but integration stuff felt very incomplete. But Mint KDE edition ran smoothly, and perfectly. Very smoothly infact!

                It is odd, that the "Heavyweight" KDE ended up running the fastest on such a weak machine.

                Hearing that Kubuntu is now going to be working with the same group as Mint KDE, only good things can come from this :-)

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by garegin View Post
                  kubuntu wasn't exactly a polished distro. it was thrown together. coupled with the clusterfuck nature of kde4, it was a rough combo.
                  It wasn't just thrown together, it was actually worse than a default fresh install of KDE. They kept trying to integrate various Ubuntu apps/processes/features into it, and the result was always buggy.

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                  • #10
                    It's great news.

                    I'm glad to hear Johnathan Riddell will be continuing his work on Kubuntu. Not that I know him, but have been aware of the tremendous amount of work he puts into Kubuntu.

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by smitty3268 View Post
                      It wasn't just thrown together, it was actually worse than a default fresh install of KDE. They kept trying to integrate various Ubuntu apps/processes/features into it, and the result was always buggy.
                      Really, from what I hear the Kubuntu devs always try to upstream any changes they make and won't even dare to brand their KDE desktop. What Ubuntu apps are you speaking of because Kubuntu never came with Ubuntu One's cloud storage or music services? Does Canonical have other services? I'm just wondering what Kubuntu has that other distros such as OpenSuse or Fedora leave out! The only thing I can thing of is the Graphical Apt Manager, Muon.

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by CTown View Post
                        Really, from what I hear the Kubuntu devs always try to upstream any changes they make and won't even dare to brand their KDE desktop. What Ubuntu apps are you speaking of because Kubuntu never came with Ubuntu One's cloud storage or music services? Does Canonical have other services? I'm just wondering what Kubuntu has that other distros such as OpenSuse or Fedora leave out! The only thing I can thing of is the Graphical Apt Manager, Muon.
                        I'm talking about the infamous translation fiasco, for starters. KDE translations were quite good, but Kubuntu was forced into using the Ubuntu system which was completely broken.

                        Most of the issues were ironed out in recent years, but there was a real problem for a while.

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by smitty3268 View Post
                          It wasn't just thrown together, it was actually worse than a default fresh install of KDE. They kept trying to integrate various Ubuntu apps/processes/features into it, and the result was always buggy.
                          I imagine this could be due to both them and Canonical wanting a common base installation. Reasons could be maintenance load and easening troubleshooting.

                          With that follows that there's a lot of extra stuff that doesn't interface well/at all with KDE (eg apport, ibus) but is mandated by Canonical to be installed by default. Moreover Ubuntu isn't a slim distro by any standards, and I wager the Kubuntu council doesn't have *that* much say about what non-graphical base system packages get installed when you install from a live image. Enabling installation of recommended packages by default certainly doesn't help keeping the load light either.

                          Distancing themselves from Canonical should free their hands a bit.

                          Originally posted by smitty3268 View Post
                          I'm talking about the infamous translation fiasco, for starters. KDE translations were quite good, but Kubuntu was forced into using the Ubuntu system which was completely broken.
                          A good example. If memory serves (source eludes me), Canonical more-or-less demanded that KDE apps in Kubuntu should file their bugs to launchpad rather than upstream, but the Kubuntu council was apparently adamant enough to keep them routing to bugs.kde.org.

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