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  • #16
    My understanding of the situation is that Kubuntu has always been a second or third rate Ubuntu citizen. There has always been bugs, and a lot of piece was never patched after the repo freeze with each new version. Nevermind that a lot of GNOME or GTK components was shipped default.
    And besides, KDE will still be packaged, so Kubuntu will be clean install+KDE packages.
    Besides, other distroes tend to do a better job at KDE. Perhaps it has somethign to do with the repo freeze? I don't really know.

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    • #17
      And the option? Gnome?! LOL!

      And the option? Gnome?! LOL!

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      • #18
        Originally posted by ayqazi View Post
        So I switched from Gentoo to Kubuntu because I wanted my latest-and-greatest KDE on Linux fix with the least hassle... I hope I won't have to switch again. After all, the community will be supporting it so I hope it will stay up-to-date. I don't mind using Gnome stuff for things like network management and all that so I don't mind if the KDE versions of those become out of date, but I hope at least the desktop environment will continue to be functional.
        Why not use opensuse, I find their KDE implementation close to perfect and with the right repositories you can stay very very close to official releases ? Personally am happy with it, never really saw kubuntu as a valid alternative.

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        • #19
          Originally posted by Azpegath View Post
          What was your experience/impression of Gentoo's KDE support? I've just installed KDE, but never really used it, on my Gentoo machine, so I'm curious to know.
          I haven't used Gentoo for about 8 months now, but every time a new version of KDE came out I always had problems installing the new pykde4. It seems like that ebuild was always broken for about a week after it was released. Which means you would only have half of the new KDE installed until they fixed the ebuild.

          Other than that, it was pretty good.

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          • #20
            Originally posted by sabriah View Post
            And the option? Gnome?! LOL!
            Go upstream, aka Debian.
            Besides you can't go Gnome on Ubuntu, you can only go for Unity.
            I left Unity for Fedora, although I don't hate Gnome3 with a passion, your case is probably different.

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            • #21
              Not happy about this news...

              This news is disappointing, but not a complete surprise either. I've been using Kubuntu now since the demise of Freespire, and it really seemed that Kubuntu wasn't ever promoted by Canonical. Hopefully the Kubuntu community will be able to successfully go forward without their support.

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              • #22
                Canonical makes one Kubuntu developer work on different stuff (probably Qt or similar) in the future. Big deal.

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                • #23
                  Originally posted by d2kx View Post
                  Canonical makes one Kubuntu developer work on different stuff (probably Qt or similar) in the future. Big deal.
                  It took 3 pages for someone to write it as it is...
                  Yes, that's a still a sad news for Kubuntu, but come on...

                  All bashers so far, please repeat after me: there will be other versions of Kubuntu after 12.04

                  They pull the plug on the one paid Kubuntu dev; and by that, it doesn't even mean he's fired.
                  Last edited by PsynoKhi0; 02-07-2012, 01:12 PM.

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                  • #24
                    I personally do not get why Ubuntu needs specific versions to cater to certain desktops. It does not seem to benefit them by giving them more attention; it seems to have the opposite effect of making them become more niched and have trouble "following the leader" as it were.

                    I think Fedora (and most other distros for that matter) have it right, by just maintaining the packages for all of the real DE's in their Repos. And if you do not want to go fiddling with the installer, you can grab one of the community spins that are maintained in a similar fashion to Ubuntu's, though I find it more convenient to do package selection from the installer. Especially if you like having more than one desktop.

                    I am using Xfce in this matter, as Gnome 3 does not work with Zaphod Mode, and have installed it through the installer like this on three computers in this fashion. I do not feel like I am lagging behind by using Xfce on it, and do not feel like I am lacking in support. Same for the LXDE install I have on here. And I would assume, also the same for KDE if you want to use that.

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                    • #25
                      I liked Kutuntu because it was so...naitively KDE and it kept things up to date with full updates every 6 months. It also had a big repo and a lot of 3rd party packages. I even liked that it was easy to install proprietary drivers and what not because I'm not ready for mesa until I get a good AMD graphics card. SUSE's too hard to use. Fedora KDE's great, but it doesn't fit many of my preferences. Does anyone know of any other distros that fit this catagory?

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                      • #26
                        Originally posted by Prescience500 View Post
                        I liked Kutuntu because it was so...naitively KDE and it kept things up to date with full updates every 6 months. It also had a big repo and a lot of 3rd party packages. I even liked that it was easy to install proprietary drivers and what not because I'm not ready for mesa until I get a good AMD graphics card. SUSE's too hard to use. Fedora KDE's great, but it doesn't fit many of my preferences. Does anyone know of any other distros that fit this catagory?
                        Read what I wrote. Then stick with Kubuntu if you liked it so far.

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                        • #27
                          Originally posted by d2kx View Post
                          Canonical makes one Kubuntu developer work on different stuff (probably Qt or similar) in the future. Big deal.
                          Originally posted by d2kx View Post
                          Read what I wrote. Then stick with Kubuntu if you liked it so far.
                          I havn't decided to leave Kubuntu, but I want to be ready to leave in case things start going badly. I was hoping that Ubuntu would learn from their mistakes with Unity and Gnome 3 move the other way, toward KDE. All else equal, I'd rather give my support and business to firms and what not that better support KDE. I'd most prefer to patronize Fedora/Red Hat because my support there would benefit all Linux, but I know that I won't be getting enough of what I want. Besides, I've converted many people to Linux, many of whom aren't very tech savy and it takes some effort to set things up so I don't have to constantly answer questions or help them make things work the way they need it to. If I can find something that makes it easier for new converts, that's even better.

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                          • #28
                            well, all the hard work of making KDE as bad as possible on ubuntu was finally seen as a hopeless endeaver. Got for KDE. All those bad patches, all those broken translations (correct in KDE, broken by canonical), they will hardly be missed.

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                            • #29
                              Originally posted by Azpegath View Post
                              What was your experience/impression of Gentoo's KDE support? I've just installed KDE, but never really used it, on my Gentoo machine, so I'm curious to know.
                              Setting up X and everything is a pain, but it compiles flawlessly and works just fine, even the ~ releases. It just takes so long that I sometimes put it off. System integration is non-existent, like network setup and stuff but I prefer setting up my system using config files anyway, so I never felt the loss. It's just the compile times and driver hunting and X setup that made me leave. I can't imagine what it would have been like to set up all of my laptop's special keys (volume controls, screen brightness, etc.) using Gentoo.

                              Regards,
                              Asfand

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                              • #30
                                what is there to set up with X nowadays? it doesn't even need a xorg.conf anymore.

                                Networking is even easier: turn on dhcp in your router, skip network setup. Done!

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