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  • #16
    How can people stand to use ALSA without PulseAudio in this day and time? It's awful. I had nothing but trouble in my recent KDE tests (low sound quality, high CPU usage, applications bypassing kmix) that were magically solved as soon as I installed Pulse.

    Why don't you like NetworkManager? I think it's awesome both in its gnome and kde flavors (the gnome flavor is a bit more mature, so I tend to have both installed).

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    • #17
      taps Debian

      Taps Debian but creates incompatible .deb files.

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      • #18
        It really bugs me that there are "-dev" versions of packages. That is a Debian feature, of course, and other distros have the same. While not a violation of the letter of the GPL, it seems to me to be a violation of the spirit.

        Here's why it bugs me: I work on an free game derived from Quake2 GPL'd code. Like many open source projects, for Linux, we distribute a tarball with an Autotools build, and have a Subversion repository with read-only public access. I would guess that most of our Linux user base are Ubuntu users and, it is a good (even great) thing that Ubuntu makes Linux more accessible. However, it is a pain that the user cannot build an open source program with the default library install; they have to make a special effort to get build tools and the "-dev" versions of libraries. Like many open source projects, we do not have a lot of resources for pre-release testing; we really depend on our regular user base for this. The "-dev" version thing just makes that a little harder.

        Some would, and have, pointed out that it would be a dangerous thing for regular users to be able to build programs. But, isn't that what the GPL is about? I concede that there are environments where that restriction would be needed. However, seems to me the default should be the other way around with "non-dev" packaging being the special case.

        No doubt this is not going to change, but, having ranted, I feel better now.

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        • #19
          I first started my linux experience with ubuntu 6.06. It was buggy but by and large it worked perfectly fine. I continued to use ubuntu until they decided arbitrarily move the min/max/close buttons to the left by default. A change that is to this day still a huge mystery to me Anyway, here's what I don't like about ubuntu.

          Dislike:
          Min/Max/Close buttons on the left by default
          networkmanager
          pulse audio
          their obsession with social networking integration
          bloat bloat bloat bloat bloat bloat bloat
          unity interface

          Like:
          the startup jingle, I still miss it

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          • #20
            Originally posted by dfblogic View Post
            It really bugs me that there are "-dev" versions of packages. That is a Debian feature, of course, and other distros have the same. While not a violation of the letter of the GPL, it seems to me to be a violation of the spirit.

            Here's why it bugs me: I work on an free game derived from Quake2 GPL'd code. Like many open source projects, for Linux, we distribute a tarball with an Autotools build, and have a Subversion repository with read-only public access. I would guess that most of our Linux user base are Ubuntu users and, it is a good (even great) thing that Ubuntu makes Linux more accessible. However, it is a pain that the user cannot build an open source program with the default library install; they have to make a special effort to get build tools and the "-dev" versions of libraries. Like many open source projects, we do not have a lot of resources for pre-release testing; we really depend on our regular user base for this. The "-dev" version thing just makes that a little harder.

            Some would, and have, pointed out that it would be a dangerous thing for regular users to be able to build programs. But, isn't that what the GPL is about? I concede that there are environments where that restriction would be needed. However, seems to me the default should be the other way around with "non-dev" packaging being the special case.

            No doubt this is not going to change, but, having ranted, I feel better now.
            Tell the Debian developers this.

            I guess some automated install of missing -dev files may fix it.

            But it is also a matter of size for a default installation.

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            • #21
              Originally posted by dfblogic View Post
              Ubuntu users
              Originally posted by dfblogic View Post
              cannot build an open source program with the default library install; they have to make a special effort to get build tools and the "-dev" versions of libraries
              You are doing it wrong.



              Originally posted by sabriah View Post
              Tell the Debian developers this.

              I guess some automated install of missing -dev files may fix it.

              But it is also a matter of size for a default installation.
              Same.

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              • #22
                I dislike the frequent regressions that are introduced on newer versions or package updates. When it comes to bleeding edge and stability nothing beats Fedora. I also don't like that some problems with certain applications or hardware only show up on Ubuntu and not other distros, leading me to believe that the Ubuntu specific patches sometimes cause more harm than good.

                PS: Unlike most people here Unity is the reason I switched back to Ubuntu.

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                • #23
                  Honestly I don't like the name. Turned me off from day one. U isn't the only vowel people!!

                  But I know some people who were turned on to Linux by Ubunutubutu so thats a good thing. Also I do like Linux Mint, so thanks for that uubutubnu.

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                  • #24
                    Originally posted by slojam View Post
                    Honestly I don't like the name. Turned me off from day one. U isn't the only vowel people!!
                    lol... i agree with you on this. i have a friend who thinks the name is stupid too and can't get past it.

                    couldn't they come up with something badass instead?

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                    • #25
                      The app store a.k.a. that POS they use as the application menu in Unity.

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                      • #26
                        I dislike Ubuntu because it uses Gnome instead of KDE.

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                        • #27
                          +:
                          built-in proprietary software support
                          Ubuntu-store
                          Design
                          Debian compatibility
                          FireFox/Chrome updates
                          Target platform diversity (studio, MID)
                          -:
                          Top-down decisions
                          Poor changes maintence,testing,fallback (currently Thunderbird crash fix taked some month to fix(why regression not caused fallback?), FGLRX install/uninstall kernel incompatibility problems, PulseAudio startup/architecture problems persist, Skyoe 1-run problem fixed by fallback and then yep again herewego
                          System design changes not available as repository modules with dependance on newer system(imho this bring chaos in mind of system dev's and incompatibility) ?am i wrong?.
                          Mono Support i really like that coding platform, also this is strategic pice in GPL/Linux
                          As many noted but i not checked backports to Debian.
                          Firefox not built-in update
                          Last edited by SunnyDrake; 07-22-2011, 04:09 PM.

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                          • #28
                            Unity, and cargo cult of Macs. 'nuff said.

                            Of course I hate unity not due to it using 3D resources, aka that its based on compiz, I actually like and still use compiz.

                            I hate akward interface they just force on us, and use kubuntu now due to that (with compiz)

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                            • #29
                              The so-called stable versions of software

                              They keep (very) old versions of software as stable even when upstream already released 2 or 3 versions marked as stable. Ubuntu (and Debian and maybe others) then try to backport those changes into their "stable" vision of that software. I really can't understand how this can happen in Linux.

                              Maybe it had some reasoning 10 years ago but now I don't see any excuse for it. Even latest git packaged by a capable maintainer is more stable and feature rich than what Ubuntu has.

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                              • #30
                                Originally posted by RealNC View Post
                                I dislike Ubuntu because it uses Gnome instead of KDE.
                                They have Kubuntu (as most distros provide the option to chose one or another DE) but I wouldn't recommend that for any KDE lover. It's not a vanilla KDE and that only hurts.

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