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  • Should Ubuntu Still Be Distributed As A CD ISO?

    Phoronix: Should Ubuntu Still Be Distributed As A CD ISO?

    The question of whether the Linux operating system should still be distributed as a 700MB CD ISO or whether they finally need to break that threshold and move to a DVD ISO or a USB-centered image has come up again for the Ubuntu 11.10 Oneiric cycle...

    http://www.phoronix.com/vr.php?view=OTQyMg

  • #2
    USB, of course

    In any modern machine, booting off of USB is easier, cheaper, and faster. Reuse a hundred times if you want. No problems with the freakin' laser, and you can even make it persistent. Nice if you wanna try a couple days.

    CD (not DVD) support is important for legacy systems, so you need some sort of simple installer for CD. Or just recomend Lubuntu or Xubuntu for those.

    DVD? Isn't that dead already?

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    • #3
      I do not mind the change, BUT

      I really want to keep the possibillity to burn a net-boot mini.iso for network install to a CD. The full distro? meh... Then i defer to the earlier speaker as his/her comment is very valid.

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      • #4
        Ubuntu already has a dvd version. Sadly that only has language packs. An extended versio of ubunt that doesn't exclude aptitude or proposed future exclusion that resembles the vanilla one would be nice but Canonical doesn't really care and i don't know why. Fedora and i think also OpenSUSE have a gnome and kde livecd and a dvd version and Debian has net-install buisnesscard and cd versions (52) and dvd versions (8). I have no ideea why they dont do a 2-3 gb one.

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        • #5
          Friggin 1 min editing window

          By cd and dvd i mean cd an dvd sized image. Ubuntu does include a tool to change the cd into a usb install. However they still cling to that 700mb.

          1 minute editing time window sucks on this (new?) version of the forum. Maybe wanna change it to 5-15 min.

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          • #6
            we need an internet install or a way to install the iso from the hard drive (kind like wubi, but for real installs on their own partition, not inside windows), that way it could be as big as they want.

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            • #7
              Originally posted by madjr View Post
              we need [...] a way to install the iso from the hard drive (kind like wubi, but for real installs on their own partition, not inside windows)...
              I think there is a roundabout way of doing that, but i forgot how.

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              • #8
                I don't mind, since DVDs are pretty much commonplace now. Just that in that case, they might want to use all of the space that DVDs give in order not to waste it, and that would mean larger downloads, which is not entirely fun. Hmm.

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                • #9
                  It doesn't fit in a CD now.

                  Ubuntu downloads a couple dozen MB of translations, dictionaries...

                  Canonical should think about the people who mirror for them and people with slow connections. If common software and translations were included in a bigger ISO, that would save a lot of bandwidth during the release time.

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by talvik View Post
                    Ubuntu downloads a couple dozen MB of translations, dictionaries...

                    Canonical should think about the people who mirror for them and people with slow connections. If common software and translations were included in a bigger ISO, that would save a lot of bandwidth during the release time.
                    i dont get how larger images can save bandwith...
                    id prefer to download 700MB and then configure my system as needed, than to get 4,7GB (makes my head ache just thinking of it) and then to customize...
                    i think for languages there should be a minimum for live cd. after install you end up fetching the language packs anyway.
                    besides... i think 700MB is a nice barriert for distros to check whether the distro gets too bloated. if they cant keept it small something is wrong...

                    P.S. customize means install flash, mp3 support, gallium driver, skype, wine etc... ... and change background in some cases^^

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by jakubo View Post
                      i dont get how larger images can save bandwith...
                      You download the image. You can install many machines from that one image. But each install then requires you to hit the Internet to grab extra packages that aren't on the image. If they're on the image, you download them once rather than for each install.

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                      • #12
                        Not a problem for me

                        It wouldn't bother me if they changed, I can't remember the last time I used optical media to install Ubuntu. I always use a usb stick.

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                        • #13
                          I realize that anybody who doesn't have a video card that supports accelerated 3D is using legacy technology ()...however, I still don't think Unity 2D should be considered "extra".

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                          • #14
                            Since Ubuntu 10.10 cmov requirement dropped in, therefor the low-end (old hardware) that probably would not have a DVD drive would not be able to run newer official releases of Ubuntu at all. Leaving three kind of x86 architectures for non-geeks:

                            I386 "last supported since 10.04 LTS"
                            I686 "default since 10.10, 11.04 can someone confirm?"
                            AMD64 "available for a while"

                            The first would have booted on most old PC's which probably shipped without DVD, but still be able to run Ubuntu lxde quit well. The second and especially the last architecture will run only on PC's that already shipped with DVD drives.

                            My point is that I rather see i386 continued on a CD-version and i686 skipped for the AMD64 version which may be DVD-only. For DVD I would put the size limit around 4GB so it will fit USB-sticks of that size.

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                            • #15
                              Rural broadband on sunny old Blighty is pitifully slow, so I don't fancy being required to increase my download size by (almost) 50%. It's already painful (NB: "move into a city" is not a reasonable response - I like trees ).

                              With that said, even our rural broadband is faster than some countries, so they'd fare even worse than me.

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