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  • #31
    Originally posted by monraaf View Post
    Ubuntu 10.10 is okay once you do a bit of post installation tweaking. Rid it of the intrusive ubuntuone-client and remove some of the Novell crap (Mono, Evolution). Not that much different than 10.04.


    why would anyone uninstall mono or evolution? seems dumb to me since there is nothing compareable to evolution not even outlook. And mono is a nice language implementation, why would you denie it?

    Putting the window buttons back to the right side is much more important.

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    • #32
      Originally posted by Detructor View Post
      why would anyone uninstall mono or evolution?
      If you don't need them, why would you keep them? I don't need Evolution or Mono, for example, so I don't install them.

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      • #33
        Originally posted by monraaf
        Ubuntu 10.10 is okay once you do a bit of post installation tweaking. Rid it of the intrusive ubuntuone-client and remove some of the Novell crap (Mono, Evolution). Not that much different than 10.04.
        Originally posted by pingufunkybeat View Post
        If you don't need them, why would you keep them? I don't need Evolution or Mono, for example, so I don't install them.
        Hey, I don't have Evolution or Mono installed! I don't need Mono or Evolution! Hey, did I mention that Mono and Evolution don't exist on my system? Yeah, I don't need Mono and Evolution! So no Evolution or Mono for me!

        It's ok, we really don't care what you do or do not install. Especially not in an Ubuntu thread.

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        • #34
          He asked a question, which I answered.

          You, on the other hand, are trolling again with your religious wars. In no way did I slight Ubuntu here. Chill, insecure boy.

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          • #35
            Even if you're not a freetard, if your system is more than a couple of years old, avoiding managed apps has it's benefits. Thankfully, java, python and mono haven't crept their way into many core desktop apps.

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            • #36
              Fantastic. My Broadcom wireless chip doesn´t seem to work. Guess I need to hack some stuff now.

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              • #37
                I really HATE that it's not possible to dd the ubuntu iso image to a usb flash drive. Also, what the hell:



                What is this? There are other distros out there :P How about a generic method? Oh wait... I already answered this.

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                • #38
                  Well i wrote already what to do, here a bit more explained

                  sudo apt-get install syslinux

                  isohybrid image.iso

                  then you can do what you wanted with it.

                  U or better cjwatson does not like that isohybrid as 2nd command appoach therefore it does not work, take a look there:

                  https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-cdimage/+bug/524803

                  I think for a bug that i reported 8 month before release the result is really disappointing...

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                  • #39
                    A blog states that the social crap has been integrated tightly in 10.10, so much it's hard to remove. If so, it's really downhill for Ubuntu now.

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                    • #40
                      Originally posted by curaga View Post
                      A blog states that the social crap has been integrated tightly in 10.10, so much it's hard to remove. If so, it's really downhill for Ubuntu now.
                      Blog site, FUD much. There's an aggregator for social networks, called Gwibber (which was also available on 10.04). You can ignore it or uninstall it as you wish.

                      Maverick Meerkat is by far the most polished desktop Linux available right now.

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                      • #41
                        Originally posted by BlackStar View Post
                        Blog site, FUD much. There's an aggregator for social networks, called Gwibber (which was also available on 10.04). You can ignore it or uninstall it as you wish.
                        I like the social crap integration but Gwibber is unbelievably slow for such a simple app. It also has many bugs, like not displaying the time units, at least on my language it only shows something like "updated 3 ago". It's also very ugly. In fact I'm still looking for a desktop app to acces my twitter accounts, but I end up always going back to the web interface which is excellent and much better than all the apps I've tried. Same story with facebook.

                        Originally posted by BlackStar View Post
                        Maverick Meerkat is by far the most polished desktop Linux available right now.
                        Maybe the desktop is ok, but the netbook edition is terrible. By far the worst experience I had on a netbook. No, actually that was KDE netbook, ubuntu netbook 10.10 is the second worst.

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                        • #42
                          Originally posted by curaga View Post
                          A blog states that the social crap has been integrated tightly in 10.10, so much it's hard to remove. If so, it's really downhill for Ubuntu now.
                          Maybe they're talking about dependencies; I know Ubuntu's had some weird ones in the past, like evolution. They've also made it impossible to uninstall wayland.
                          Originally posted by BlackStar View Post
                          Maverick Meerkat is by far the most polished desktop Linux available right now.
                          Well that's depressing.

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                          • #43
                            Originally posted by unimatrix View Post
                            Amazing! This is the first time everything went smooth during upgrade. Not only does everything still work, they even made it amazingly responsive (nautilus, scrolling,...) and it boots even faster now! The new font is spectacular too - so easy on the eyes and so clear.

                            This is the best release ever.
                            I'd hesitate that it's the best one ever- it still has a few sharp edges that lurk in the wings from having started with a beta back in September and using it as, even though it was ill-advised, a production desktop system for my current Day Job. It works smoother in many ways to the previous versions- but there's still things...off...with the thing.

                            For example, OpenJDK is your only choice for Java right at the moment- and things aren't apparently as stable with it on 10.10 versus 10.4; Eclipse and Netbeans seem to be much less stable than they were in 10.4 (Crashes abound, especially with Netbeans trying to do C/C++ development. Had to quit trying that since it'd die more often than stay up there. So long as I stick to the Java stuff (Day job has me doing C/C++ and Java stuff depending on which part of the system I'm working on...) it is MOSTLY stable- it only occasionally crashes on startup and then is robust past that.

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                            • #44
                              Originally posted by Detructor View Post
                              why would anyone uninstall mono or evolution? seems dumb to me since there is nothing compareable to evolution not even outlook. And mono is a nice language implementation, why would you denie it?
                              1) It's about choice. If I'm not using the silly thing, why make it a dependency in the case of Evolution. It's STILL not stable enough to use against an Exchange 2007 server- it gets confused often enough and loses it's ability to work with the server here at work that I gave up trying with it and have a VirtualBox session with the old HD with their XP install on it as the boot volume. It's up for one thing. Email.

                              2) Mono's a nice implementation, yes. OF A PATENTED TECHNOLOGY. Don't believe for one moment that Microsoft will not sue someone over it- that patent pledge has so many holes in it that it won't protect anyone using Mono when push comes to shove. Why even get ensnared there? (It amazes me just how many people keep getting sucker-punched by Microsoft's stuff. It's not easier. It's not better. It's different. If you use it, it's designed to tie you to Microsoft's stuff in perpetuity. Even CIL and C#. If you've not been bit enough times, I guess you wouldn't understand- but if you like MS' stuff, why are you even using Linux in the first place?) But each to their own- like I said in 1, it's about choice. Making it a dependency is a problem really as it really ISN'T one any more than Evolution is.

                              Putting the window buttons back to the right side is much more important.
                              Heh... Pick Clearlooks as the theme. You'd be surprised how easy it is to get what's important to you- if that's what's actually more important to you.

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                              • #45
                                Originally posted by RealNC View Post
                                Not a movie. It's from The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy.
                                Ah, but they may not have read the book, heard the Radio edition, and may have only seen the BBC TV edition or just the Movie...

                                I can proudly say I've done all the above...

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