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    Phoronix: Fedora 14 "Laughlin" Alpha Released

    While there was a delay, Red Hat has released Fedora 14 Alpha this morning, which is codenamed Laughlin. Fedora 14 switches over from Upstart to the systemd sesssion manager, further enhances its Linux virtualization stack, adds support for the D programming language, easy IPMI management, and carries various other features as one of the leading Linux distributions...

    http://www.phoronix.com/vr.php?view=ODU0Mw

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    According to Wikipedia there's two versions of the D programming language: 1.0 and 2.0, does anyone know which version is Fedora bundling?

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    • #3
      What a pity, no GNOME Live CD. Only DVDs.

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      • #4
        Originally posted by monraaf View Post
        What a pity, no GNOME Live CD. Only DVDs.
        Its 701 MB, you can probably overburn it.

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          Ah, okay thanks. Firefox says 704MB for the AMD64 version, I'll give it a try.

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          • #6
            I can't remember the last time I burned a CD. Using a USB drive is so much easier, faster and silent.

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            • #7
              And more eco-friendly!

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              • #8
                Originally posted by d2kx View Post
                I can't remember the last time I burned a CD. Using a USB drive is so much easier, faster and silent.
                I agree 100%. But unfortunately, although there about a gazillion options to boot from USB in my bios, none of them actually work. So I'm doomed to use optical media.

                Back on topic, any reason why gcc isn't included on the Live CD? AFAIK even Ubuntu includes it on their Live CD.

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by monraaf View Post
                  Back on topic, any reason why gcc isn't included on the Live CD? AFAIK even Ubuntu includes it on their Live CD.
                  Probably because including it will bump out something else that they consider a higher priority.

                  That and the fact that you cant save stuff to a livecd (though obviously you can on a liveusb).

                  In general, I consider livecd's to be for "temporary" use in an emergency situation where you are faced with one or more instances of windeath. I think that is their intention as well.

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by monraaf View Post
                    Back on topic, any reason why gcc isn't included on the Live CD? AFAIK even Ubuntu includes it on their Live CD.
                    I don't think it's included in the desktop install either so that would be consistent?

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                    • #11
                      Maybe it's just me but I find gcc pretty essential, even on a Live CD.

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by monraaf View Post
                        Ah, okay thanks. Firefox says 704MB for the AMD64 version, I'll give it a try.
                        I've never actually understood the purpose behind a 64bit livecd... a 64bit CPU can run the 32bit livecd perfectly well, and it isn't like you're going to use it as your primary desktop -- just in emergency situations, where you want to maximize compatibility (i.e. in case you happen to sit behind a machine with a genuine 32bit CPU).

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by monraaf View Post
                          Maybe it's just me but I find gcc pretty essential, even on a Live CD.
                          I think its just you. I can't think of a single reason for gcc on a livecd.

                          On an installed system absolutely... can't live without being about to compile hacked kernels, mods, etc., but a livecd?

                          Remember that the livecd gives you ssh, so you can use a proper server for compiling stuff and just network it over if needed.

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by droidhacker View Post
                            I've never actually understood the purpose behind a 64bit livecd... a 64bit CPU can run the 32bit livecd perfectly well, and it isn't like you're going to use it as your primary desktop -- just in emergency situations, where you want to maximize compatibility (i.e. in case you happen to sit behind a machine with a genuine 32bit CPU).
                            64bit version is useful if you actually end up installing the live CD to the machine. Live CD installs are very fast and I use it every time I updgrade to the new release. I boot live CD to see if it works with my machine, and if all is well I just install it.

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by droidhacker View Post
                              I've never actually understood the purpose behind a 64bit livecd...
                              Errr... To try it out and see if it actualy works? A friend of mine had a 64bit CPU by the time that AMD had just released the first one and Ubuntu 64bit never worked, while 32bit did. Kind of nice to know before you whipe your hdd...

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