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  • Trying Out The New Ubuntu 10.10 Installer

    Phoronix: Trying Out The New Ubuntu 10.10 Installer

    Following last week's Ubuntu 10.10 Alpha 3 release but landing before the Ubuntu 10.10 "Maverick Meerkat" feature freeze this week were a number of last-minute features like X Server 1.9 integration and other updated packages along with the committing of the revamped Ubuntu desktop installer to Maverick. Via this revamped Ubuntu installer it's possible to install proprietary bits directly like support for MP3 audio files and proprietary graphics drivers...

    http://www.phoronix.com/vr.php?view=ODUwNg

  • #2
    Installing to a btrfs root partition should be supported for a few weeks now. In fact, I did just that in late July.

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    • #3
      Originally posted by d2kx View Post
      Installing to a btrfs root partition should be supported for a few weeks now. In fact, I did just that in late July.
      I believe he is looking for support in Grub2. I think such a patch exists but because it is ported from the kernels GPLv2 implementation, it may face difficulty getting merged into Grub2 since their GPLv3+ license (of superior freedom remember?) is incompatible with the GPLv2.

      Hilarity on skates. But surely it will be worked out somehow.

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      • #4
        Extlinux has btrfs support now.

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        • #5
          Originally posted by DavidNielsen View Post
          I believe he is looking for support in Grub2.
          If that would be the case Michael wouldn't have wrote: "[...] which was a feature introduced to Ubuntu Maverick's alternate/server CD installer."

          I found btrfs by coincidence in Ubiquity at the end of last month and since then I am running Ubuntu on a compressed btrfs on my sub-notebook. Hopefully they will add the compress option officially soon.

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          • #6
            Well, I thought you can't install directly to btrfs because of a dependency on zlib needed for compression. Regardless, the installer needs to have the option to mount / or any other directory with options, so for example, btrfs can be mounted with compress and ssd from the get go, making the total installation smaller, which is one big point for using btrfs for me anyway.

            The way I did it using a previous alpha was to slow the installer using while 1 in bash, waiting until it mounts /target and /target/boot, then sending SIGSTOP to the installer. Then I unmounted /target/boot, then /target and remounted /target using "mount -t btrfs -o compress, ssd /device /mountpoint" and /target/boot using "mount -t ext4 /device /mountpoint". I then restarted the installer and it went on it's way installing, slowly of course because of the btrfs I/O slowdown bug. Afterwards I modified /etc/fstab to mount / using '-o compress, ssd'.
            Unless I am completely blind I see no way to choose mount options using the alternative installer.

            The btrfs I/O slowdown bug needs to be backported this kernel if btrfs is going to have any use at all, as it takes way too long to update installations.

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            • #7
              Originally posted by LavosPhoenix View Post
              The way I did it using a previous alpha was to slow the installer using while 1 in bash, waiting until it mounts /target and /target/boot, then sending SIGSTOP to the installer. [...]
              I moved /bin/mount to /bin/mount.bin and replaced the original mount by a small script which adds the compress option if the filesystem to mount is btrfs and then used the installer. Worked great :-)

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              • #8
                What a nice installer. Ubuntu is doing a very good job! Can't wait for 10.10.10 final release!

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                • #9
                  Did I see it right, that the installer defaults to automatic login for the set user?
                  Windows XP is back!

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by r1348 View Post
                    Did I see it right, that the installer defaults to automatic login for the set user?
                    Windows XP is back!
                    It's not a privileged account, so not quite XP. I think automatic login is OK for PCs for home use, because those computers aren't physically secured beyond the security of the house. As soon as someone has access to the keyboard, they have access to the hard drive, too. A password won't do much good in that situation.

                    I haven't tested the installer; does anybody know what the default is for laptops? For laptops that are used in public places, it would make sense to encrypt the drive, have a password-protected login, and lock the BIOS into only booting from the hard drive.

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                    • #11
                      Just out of curiosity, what's with all the Ubuntu love on here? All I ever see are Ubuntu and Fedora related posts...

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by UVClay View Post
                        Just out of curiosity, what's with all the Ubuntu love on here? All I ever see are Ubuntu and Fedora related posts...
                        I dunno, maybe those are the two most important distributions, dwarfing any other distribution out there?

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                        • #13
                          Wow, this is pretty terrible. Non-free software being offered in the installer?? Not to mention the fact that many commercial users don't qualify for a free patent license, and so this new option could open them up to patent infringement lawsuits if they use it...

                          Most importantly, Ubuntu is now making a huge statement that Free multimedia formats like Vorbis aren't worth supporting -- with this option and Ubuntu One only allowing music to be purchased in mp3 format, they're basically leaving Vorbis out to dry.

                          The only positive thing I see about this change is that downstream distros can re-purpose the installer option to install something else without having to add a custom page to the installer...

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by Remco View Post
                            I dunno, maybe those are the two most important distributions, dwarfing any other distribution out there?
                            Most popular =/= most important. Try harder troll.

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by UVClay View Post
                              Most popular =/= most important. Try harder troll.
                              As a fanboi, you're not quite successful in pushing your own distro. Lesson one: mention the name of your distro. Please try again, troll.

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